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EBR Target Challenge
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That's getting there!
With a few tweaks things have tightened right up at long last....FHC..It's a challenge with low power in it's self...Ho hum crack on..Thank's again Mike for challenge! Always like a good challenge. So re-zeroed on the mounts @ 100 yards using 8.4 grain Air Arms washed and sized... With a late start came a very cool late finish...Shot two cards as the damp crept in on them. Nice little clean holes is what I want...Ha ha Bless.. My weekend is going to be fun packed with some good scores as a bonus me thinks!
With a few tweaks things have tightened right up at long last....FHC..It's a challenge with low power in it's self...Ho hum crack on..Thank's again Mike for challenge! Always like a good challenge. So re-zeroed on the mounts @ 100 yards using 8.4 grain Air Arms washed and sized... With a late start came a very cool late finish...Shot two cards as the damp crept in on them. Nice little clean holes is what I want...Ha ha Bless.. My weekend is going to be fun packed with some good scores as a bonus me thinks!
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Boom, There it is...Well until the weather came in and temp dropped off the cliff...But alas some frustrating strays as the gusts hit them...But hey I'm on the right path for sure! Had to put a react target on the sigher, So hard to see these little .177 impacts...Had a few key hole still from gusts and possibly hammer creep issue. 6 MOA L with 1-2 hold SSE switching to a southerly so ended up calling it as that just gets too lefty righty. But on the scoring front around 171 is not too shabby at all. Great frustrating fun!
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The wife and I went out today to shoot and her 25 cal crown was all over the place at 100 yards....It's going to get a good cleaning its been a long time.....But I had 2 of my best targets ever at the 100 yard bench....Impact 30 cal shooting the 44 grainers at 895......I am slowly getting there......Well i hope I am.
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Good shooting Tony!!! All that hard work paid off. 
Don't forget that barrel was mine, after it was Carl's, after it was Dave's, who bought it new with the Impact X that I ended up with and converted to a .25 Slugger... LOL
Don't forget that barrel was mine, after it was Carl's, after it was Dave's, who bought it new with the Impact X that I ended up with and converted to a .25 Slugger... LOLUpvote 0
Two cards with good solid scores… lots of 9’s and 10’s! What’s not to like right?
Good shooting Tony.
Tom
Good shooting Tony.
Tom
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Thanks, but I think I am screwed….cleaned the wife’s rifle took it out to 50 yards and 5 pellets on top of each other…I’m toast next we shoot together 
Tony P
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Thanks, but I think I am screwed….cleaned the wife’s rifle took it out to 50 yards and 5 pellets on top of each other…I’m toast next we shoot together
Tony P
Oh yeah, you are in the deep end my friend. That old .25 Crown is as accurate a gun as I've ever shot - remember last time I shot a couple of screw heads at 100 yards with it after we were done shooting for score? And with Barb on the trigger, she'll scoff at your 225...
I can hear her now, "silly rabbit, 225s are for chumps..."Upvote 0
After a bunch of testing in the last month, decided to get Wally out of the cobwebs.....
Bluebaby was practicing at 75 so I threw a few down range and shot this card..
Probably should have spent a few more minutes analyzing the wind, but just decided to go for it. Clockwise starting at the sighter bull. Second and last bull were decent. 5 per bull then moved on.
Wish all of my testing was going this well....
Bob
Bluebaby was practicing at 75 so I threw a few down range and shot this card..
Probably should have spent a few more minutes analyzing the wind, but just decided to go for it. Clockwise starting at the sighter bull. Second and last bull were decent. 5 per bull then moved on.
Wish all of my testing was going this well....
Bob
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You're funny, Pesty.....
I guess I'm not worthy either. BlueBaby threw down a 241 with Ruby at 75 today and backed it up with a 238 at 100. She might post it, don't know... but best I mustered was a 235 at 75 with Old Grey and a 229 with Wally at 100. My 50 - 5X bull was still better... ha !
They're just toying with us
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Bob
I guess I'm not worthy either. BlueBaby threw down a 241 with Ruby at 75 today and backed it up with a 238 at 100. She might post it, don't know... but best I mustered was a 235 at 75 with Old Grey and a 229 with Wally at 100. My 50 - 5X bull was still better... ha !
They're just toying with us
...Bob
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Good luck guys! I Hope the wind is fair! Gutted I can't go..But I will get last years out and get on it! Ha ha
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Old thread but so excited about my shooting session today that I had to share.
Shooting a Vet Short with a .20 barrel, pushing the 15.89grain JSBs to 905-915fps for just a hair under 30fpe. Athlon Midas Tac, cheap clone bipod, plastic table, no wind flags.
92 yards
Shot 4 cards, 208, 226, 220, and 217, in that order.
Those scores, by themselves are not that impressive. But doing it in the context of using a .20, and having winds switching around on me. Of the 20, 5 shot groups that make up the 4 cards, the 6 best five shot groups measure in at : 0.74moa, 0.78moa, 0.94 moa, 0.95moa, 1.05 moa, and 1.22 moa. And those sub moa groups were mostly centered over the bull too (vs out in left field but still a good group, so we've got accuracy AND precision here), with the 0.74 and 0.78moa groups being worth 48/50 and 49/50 points.
Here's the two best 5 shot groups:
And some of the MOA coin before I scored them.
Really enjoyed this session. Actually considering using the .20 Heavies and the Vet Short instead of the .22 Long Ranger throwing MRDs at the Xtreme FT next Sat....
Shooting a Vet Short with a .20 barrel, pushing the 15.89grain JSBs to 905-915fps for just a hair under 30fpe. Athlon Midas Tac, cheap clone bipod, plastic table, no wind flags.
92 yards
Shot 4 cards, 208, 226, 220, and 217, in that order.
Those scores, by themselves are not that impressive. But doing it in the context of using a .20, and having winds switching around on me. Of the 20, 5 shot groups that make up the 4 cards, the 6 best five shot groups measure in at : 0.74moa, 0.78moa, 0.94 moa, 0.95moa, 1.05 moa, and 1.22 moa. And those sub moa groups were mostly centered over the bull too (vs out in left field but still a good group, so we've got accuracy AND precision here), with the 0.74 and 0.78moa groups being worth 48/50 and 49/50 points.
Here's the two best 5 shot groups:
And some of the MOA coin before I scored them.
Really enjoyed this session. Actually considering using the .20 Heavies and the Vet Short instead of the .22 Long Ranger throwing MRDs at the Xtreme FT next Sat....
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Nice cards Frank!
Have to say; using a Vet bull pup .20 cal shortie with 15.89 pellets in wind ( no flags) has to be pretty challenging. I have a .25 cal Vet Long and use it for 50 yard bench rest and back yard pesting and plinking. 92 yards is a long way for that combination of variables.
Really good scoring.
Tom
Have to say; using a Vet bull pup .20 cal shortie with 15.89 pellets in wind ( no flags) has to be pretty challenging. I have a .25 cal Vet Long and use it for 50 yard bench rest and back yard pesting and plinking. 92 yards is a long way for that combination of variables.
Really good scoring.
Tom
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Thanks Tommy. I was all smiles throughout the whole thing. Was enjoying it so much that I let the gun get quite a bit below reg pressure twice and had two low impacting shots tell me to go fill er back up. So dang cool to watch 4 or 5 drop into the 9 ring in a row, and multiple times!. Hold offs averaged 1/2 a mil left and right but I also had to hold up or down just a bit too, as the wind switched from quartering in and out. Home range/back yard though, and been here a year now and I feel like I'm starting to get a handle on the wind back there.
The .20 barrel is a bit longer than the OEM Shortie barrel, the whole gun measures just shy of 26 inches from furthest end of oem shroud to butt pad. Still pretty short though. I always hear that "bullpups are harder to shoot idea", and I even kinda agree with it, when shot from a non-supported position (like a bumbag). But when shooting from a bench or off a solid rest of some sort (truck hood, window sill, etc) I don't find either of my Vets any harder to shoot than a traditional sporter type gun. But I've also shot them a bunch, specifically this little Shortie. I just did a tallie of the empty tins from this gun, both when it was a .22 and now a .20, and there's 26 empty tins, #500 count. So, I guess all that practice has helped me shoot it better? I will admit to going all-in with the Veteran idea a while back. I'm their biggest fanboy lol.
The other interesting thing to note here is that the 15.89 grain Heavy .20 is kinda magic. JSB listed its BC as just a hair less than the .22 Monster RD. I personally measured them from this gun, at this speed, at something like 0.046 and 0.048 (two different sessions a while back). The 18.13 in .22 don't have nearly that high of a BC. I've shot the .20 Heavys at distances like this a fair amount, sometimes switching back and forth between it and the .22 Monster RDs in the same shooting conditions. The .20s drift only slightly more than the MRDs. Don't get me wrong, the MRDs are simply better at bucking the wind, but it's surprising to see first-hand how well the .20 Heavies do.
The .20 barrel is a bit longer than the OEM Shortie barrel, the whole gun measures just shy of 26 inches from furthest end of oem shroud to butt pad. Still pretty short though. I always hear that "bullpups are harder to shoot idea", and I even kinda agree with it, when shot from a non-supported position (like a bumbag). But when shooting from a bench or off a solid rest of some sort (truck hood, window sill, etc) I don't find either of my Vets any harder to shoot than a traditional sporter type gun. But I've also shot them a bunch, specifically this little Shortie. I just did a tallie of the empty tins from this gun, both when it was a .22 and now a .20, and there's 26 empty tins, #500 count. So, I guess all that practice has helped me shoot it better? I will admit to going all-in with the Veteran idea a while back. I'm their biggest fanboy lol.
The other interesting thing to note here is that the 15.89 grain Heavy .20 is kinda magic. JSB listed its BC as just a hair less than the .22 Monster RD. I personally measured them from this gun, at this speed, at something like 0.046 and 0.048 (two different sessions a while back). The 18.13 in .22 don't have nearly that high of a BC. I've shot the .20 Heavys at distances like this a fair amount, sometimes switching back and forth between it and the .22 Monster RDs in the same shooting conditions. The .20s drift only slightly more than the MRDs. Don't get me wrong, the MRDs are simply better at bucking the wind, but it's surprising to see first-hand how well the .20 Heavies do.
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It is a great feeling when you can have five land in the 10 and/or 9-ring. I am much better at shooting five in a row at just one bull vs. shooting EBR competition style. ( I.e., shooting one shot at each bull in rotation fashion). Still, either way always makes me smile.
The Vet is a great platform and from the bench the traditional bull pup ‘ harder to shoot’ characteristics are neutralized. Having said that, I can’t shoot the Vet as good at 100 yards as with my RAW HM1000x .22 HP or Safari HP.22.
Didn’t realize the BC was so high with those Heavies. I can tell from your holds, you had a pretty good read on the wind, and without flags to boot.
I hope folks keep posting on this thread, as I love to learn new stuff.
The Vet is a great platform and from the bench the traditional bull pup ‘ harder to shoot’ characteristics are neutralized. Having said that, I can’t shoot the Vet as good at 100 yards as with my RAW HM1000x .22 HP or Safari HP.22.
Didn’t realize the BC was so high with those Heavies. I can tell from your holds, you had a pretty good read on the wind, and without flags to boot.
I hope folks keep posting on this thread, as I love to learn new stuff.
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Well Peeps... it's that time again... EBR practice targets. We shot some good cards then it started storming so we went for pizza. When we got back, it was pretty still so we shot some more. These are my best 75 and 100 but the others were close and @bluebaby was right there too.
I had a good run at 100 on bulls 1, 2 , and 3 but ran out of pellets and opened a new tin FROM THE SAME SLEEVE for the last 7 shots. What a difference...
These were a new batch of 22 MRD's @ 965 and pretty nice conditions.
Bob
I had a good run at 100 on bulls 1, 2 , and 3 but ran out of pellets and opened a new tin FROM THE SAME SLEEVE for the last 7 shots. What a difference...
These were a new batch of 22 MRD's @ 965 and pretty nice conditions.
Bob
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Something magical must be in that pizza! Really good shooting and scoring here Bob.Well Peeps... it's that time again... EBR practice targets. We shot some good cards then it started storming so we went for pizza. When we got back, it was pretty still so we shot some more. These are my best 75 and 100 but the others were close and @bluebaby was right there too.
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I had a good run at 100 on bulls 1, 2 , and 3 but ran out of pellets and opened a new tin FROM THE SAME SLEEVE for the last 7 shots. What a difference...
These were a new batch of 22 MRD's @ 965 and pretty nice conditions.
Bob
That’s a lot of 48’s and 49’s!
Good luck to you and Sandy at EBR.
Tom
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