dry graphite as pellet lube

Forums General Discussion dry graphite as pellet lube

  • Views : 676
  • Link

    BoostCreep0908
    Participant
    Member

    I cant source silicone lube locally, only petroleum based gun lubes. but I did have a thought, has anyone here ever tried graphite as pellet or barrel lube?

    Link

    Richardo
    Participant
    Member

    I haven’t used it as a pellet lube, but suspect that it is likely to foul the bore a tad too much. Plus it would be dreadfully dirty on fingers when handling the pellets. I hope this helps. Richardo.

    Link

    sonny
    Participant
    Member

    I have heard the factory's use it (graphite) to keep pellets from sticking together,  I wash and use napier pro pellet lube myself and 100% silicone on the orings. I buy them on line

    Link

    Xbowsniper
    Participant
    Member

    Boost,

    I would NOT use dry graphite as a pellet lube, I was told years ago that it is ABRASIVE!!!

    I would go with Kry Tech made by Finish Line, or Lemon Pledge.  One is a wax based bicycle chain lube, and the other a wax based furniture polish. Both are petroleum free, and will not diesel or detonate, used for PCPS as well as Springers.

    I describe how to apply each of these on my Channel, Field Target Tech.

     

    Tom Holland 

    Link

    Tvanpool
    Participant
    Member

    Xbowsniper

    Boost,

    I would NOT use dry graphite as a pellet lube, I was told years ago that it is ABRASIVE!!!

    I would go with Kry Tech made by Finish Line, or Lemon Pledge.  One is a wax based bicycle chain lube, and the other a wax based furniture polish. Both are petroleum free, and will not diesel or detonate, used for PCPS as well as Springers.

    I describe how to apply each of these on my Channel, Field Target Tech.

     

    Tom Holland 

    Graphite is "ABRASIVE"? That's a good one. Wonder what grit it is, 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000?

    Link

    HeyU
    Participant
    Member

    Hi BC,,It would turn into a big mess that's for sure. I rinse my pellets in warm dish water,let dry ,lightly saturate a paper towell with some Ballistol,roll the pellets on it and put them back in their little tins.

    Link

    Xbowsniper
    Participant
    Member

    Tvanpool,

    I was told by a locksmith not to use it on locks that stick, mainly because of it's abrasive properties over time would actually wear the brass within the lock away.  The dry graphites that I do own have a fine grit to them.  Much finer than some polishing compounds that I use.  If I put a small amount on my thumb and forefinger, and rub them together, you can feel the grit.  Yes, it's fine, but it's still an abrasive.

    Certain metals, such as aluminum, zinc, and lead along with some alloys of steel, can create galvanic corrosion when exposed to dry graphite. This is one reason it is not used as a lubricant on aircraft.  I won't take a chance with it.

    Tom Holland 

    Link

    Yote
    Participant
    Member

    I heard that’s what’s on the crossman pellets 

    Link

    TiredRooster
    Participant
    Member

    Xbowsniper

    Boost,

    I would NOT use dry graphite as a pellet lube, I was told years ago that it is ABRASIVE!!!

    I would go with Kry Tech made by Finish Line, or Lemon Pledge.  One is a wax based bicycle chain lube, and the other a wax based furniture polish. Both are petroleum free, and will not diesel or detonate, used for PCPS as well as Springers.

    I describe how to apply each of these on my Channel, Field Target Tech.

     

    Tom Holland 

     

    I know this is one of those things that can be picked apart till the cows come home…and every one has their opinion. But, wouldn't a wax based lube cause an issue with a wax build up in the barrel? I believe (unlike some) in regular barrel cleaning. So if it did, not a big deal I guess. But the wax would build up I would think.

    Link

    fishinwrench
    Participant
    Member

    Yeah I dunno.   I wouldn't want any kind of dry powder on my pellets or in my guns. 

    I wash my pellets then give them a roll with a sponge slightly dampened with WD-40

    Just enough to keep the pellets from oxidizing. Nothing more.  

    Link

    Xbowsniper
    Participant
    Member

    TiedRooster,

    The wax doesn't build up, you don't get enough on the pellets to  build up, so to speak.  I would say 50% of competitive Field Target shooters that do lube their pellets use either Pledge, Kry Tech, Napier Pellet Lube, or Slick 50.  All of these have been tried and tested in the competition world, and none of the aforementioned compounds will have any buildup in the barrel.  Over an unlubed barrel, I've found that any of these compounds will keep the barrel very clean, and maintenance free for a longer period of time.  Granted, every barrel is different, so a lube that works well for one barrel might not work well for another. Some barrels don't like or need any lube at all.

    Yote, I have seen the Crosman pellet making equipment more than once, and they use some form of non petroleum based lube, that is a thin liquid when applied.   I believe that it might have a percentage of transmission fluid in the compound.

    Tom Holland 

    Link

    T3PRanch
    Participant
    Member

    A tried and proven lube by some shooters I know is Naptha mixed with Synthetic 2 Stroke oil @ a 20:1 ratio.

    Link

    Jorgo
    Participant
    Member

    I have tried , much dirt in barrel and fingers

    And dont grouping well from LW barrel cal 25

    Link

    spysir
    Participant
    Member

    Why do you want to lube?   I have seen one barrel ( rifle naturally) that went from 3/8" to right at 1/4" ctc at 50 yards – and not with me shooting-. To me this would be the only reason to lube. I have seen multiple rigs in which lubing made groups worse, and few that didnt care.

     How's it shoot using only pure lead?         Lap is needed if often a better idea.

    Naturally if washing pellets first some lube might be nice to prevent oxidation,  1 – 2 drops per 500 count of FP10 seems nice then.

     

     

    John

     

    note, krytek/chain lube is a nightmare in a high powered career 707

    Link

    MScottLeeman
    Participant
    Member

    Just curious,does it have to specifically be Lemon Pledge? …or can a slightly lower cost version be used?

    It's not that I'm incredibly cheap,I just wondered if I can use what I have on hand. Thanks!

    ( I had to move quick taking this pic before my Wife saw me handling the furniture polish…didn't want to give Her any "False hope"!)

    Mike

    Link

    Long_Shot
    Participant
    Member

    Hornaday "One Shot" Case Lube. Not oily. Not powdery. Not messy. Aerosol spray makes it too easy. 

    Tried several of those other things long ago. They all still made my barrels foul. Oily fingers, and stink. 

    Yesterday I shot a 1.890" group (with slugs) at 200 yards with a .25 cal. that I DON'T clean the barrel of anymore. 

    With a barrel that's not full of machine marks (polished) there's nothing to clean. 

    Think about it. What are the products we intend to use "designed" for. Not necessarily their intended use.  

    Put lots of motor oil or chainsaw oil on your Metal Lathe ways and you will ruin it. Way oil is designed to do this. 

    Case Lube –  Deliberately designed to lube a "soft" metal to swage it through a "hard" metal without damage. ☝️

    That is what we are doing here. Swaging a soft metal through a hard metal pipe…………. Got it???? 

    Or you can try some Possum Sh_t. I heard there's nothing slicker than Possum Sh_t. Let us know how it works. 😟

     

     

    Link

    Xbowsniper
    Participant
    Member

    Mscott,,

    I'm not sure, but if it is waxed based, and used in moderation, it should work.   Do not spray it directly onto the pellets, spray it on paper towels, then roll the pellets around on it. I demonstrate that in my video.

    Tom Holland 

    Link

    MScottLeeman
    Participant
    Member

    Xbowsniper

    Mscott,,

    I'm not sure, but if it is waxed based, and used in moderation, it should work.   Do not spray it directly onto the pellets, spray it on paper towels, then roll the pellets around on it. I demonstrate that in my video.

    Tom Holland 

    Thanks Tom!

    Yes,I saw that as I follow Your videos.

    Mike.

    Link

    MScottLeeman
    Participant
    Member

    Long_Shot

    Hornaday "One Shot" Case Lube. Not oily. Not powdery. Not messy. Aerosol spray makes it too easy. 

    Tried several of those other things long ago. They all still made my barrels foul. Oily fingers, and stink. 

    Yesterday I shot a 1.890" group (with slugs) at 200 yards with a .25 cal. that I DON'T clean the barrel of anymore. 

    With a barrel that's not full of machine marks (polished) there's nothing to clean. 

    Think about it. What are the products we intend to use "designed" for. Not necessarily their intended use.  

    Put lots of motor oil or chainsaw oil on your Metal Lathe ways and you will ruin it. Way oil is designed to do this. 

    Case Lube –  Deliberately designed to lube a "soft" metal to swage it through a "hard" metal without damage. ☝

    That is what we are doing here. Swaging a soft metal through a hard metal pipe…………. Got it???? 

    Or you can try some Possum Sh_t. I heard there's nothing slicker than Possum Sh_t. Let us know how it works. 😟

     

     

    I think I'll also give possum shit a try. I have a direct connection with a local supplier…

    Link

    USAFANG67
    Participant
    Member

    I think I'll also give possum shit a try. I have a direct connection with a local supplier…

     

    Keep us posted……..you just might be onto something or ON SOMETHING 🙂

    Didn't know you could tame a possum! Kool!

Viewing 20 posts - 1 through 20 (of 24 total)

You must be logged in to reply to this topic.