WELL FOR ALL THE LDC IV SEEN AND USED THIS ONE IS THE BEST BETTER THAN ANY OF MY HUGGETS IV HAD ON MY BOBCAT WILDCAT REGAL PUT THE SUMO ON THE KNEW GALATION 25 CAL ITS SO QUIET I THOUGHT SOMETHING WAS WRONG. WOW ITS THAT GOOD ALSO ITS BUILT LIKE A TANK AND LOOKS TOP NOTCH THANKS DONNY