Donny FL this and Donny FL that… are they quieter than other brands?

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    DHart
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    I keep reading about Donny FL moderators.  Can someone please explain what the claim to fame is all about?

     

    Are they quieter than other brands?  Less expensive than other brands?  What is it?

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    AnimalHitman
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    Yes

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    airgunfans
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    Really ? how about Huggett ?

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    bowwild
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    I have Belita Huggett and Donny. My Donny is 5% more quiet, based on DB AP on my iPhone.  However, I prefer the Belita hugged a bit because it is shorter.  Both are well made and finished nicely.  I did the Db testing on a Steyr Hunter Scout Auto 5.  

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    BigTinBoat
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    AnimalHitman

    Yes

    Guy asked 3 questions and you answer with "yes"?

    Are they quieter – If compared to another LDC with "equal" internal volume they will likely be very similar. Sure there are some small differences in internal design, but a LOT of research has determined it's really hard to beat a 3 chamber design with the chambers being different in size. I think most think the DFL is quieter because they are BIG. I'd answer that as a yes, a no and a maybe depending on what you are comparing it to.

    Cost? DFL seem to be on the very high end in price, so I 'd say that answer is no.

    What is it? I'd say marketing. An airgunner who is liked starts a business and guys naturally want to support him. If he gets on a bunch of forums and promotes his stuff it will become popular. I think of it like YETI.

    I do wonder why (compared to other LDC's) are their so many in the classifieds for sale used? You almost never see a Neil C one for sale used, and I can tell you they are top notch. Maybe that's why?

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    bigbobbybeef
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    no comparison to yeti and anyone that has a donny would not give it up if mine broke and the only way this would happen is if i dropped my gun i would order a new one the same day hands down is that good enough

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    NoLandBeyond
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    Here's the deal. It's very tough, though not impossible, to purchase a standalone LDC nowadays. Most retailers permanently fix them to their guns before shipping them out to their customer. How do I know? Because I have a few – Daystate Regal XL, Brocock Compatto – which are near impossible to remove unless a lot of heat is applied, potentially damaging the shroud or the included LDC.

    A few years ago, I found an independent retailers in Arizona that was selling quality Weihrauch LDC's for .177 up to .25 calibers so I jumped on the deal considering that they were standalone and shipped to my house. Now the hard part was tracking down adapters for my guns, like my Air Arms S500's, Taipan Mutants, often times going on Ebay and hoping to find an overseas seller willing to sell me the adapter without some restriction in place.

    During this time, Neil Clague was very active on the forums, and most people knew about him. He is capable of making some really custom LDC's for whatever gun you have. The problem was that because he built each LDC as a custom product, the wait time was long depending on how busy he was, and his prices varied based on what you wanted. Unfortunately, most customers, including myself, didn't know whether an LDC or custom shroud would be the better option. He eventually left the forums as far as I know but is still in business. The problem is that you can't just go to his website and order an LDC and have it in your hands in a few days and test it out.

    So here comes Donny. He has been making some custom LDC's as well but they are a universal fit for the most part, using the 1/2×20 UNF fitting. The Fatboy LDC comes to mind. His LDC's were easy to purchase off his website, arrived to your door in a few days, and were quality products able to compete with the big boys from Weihrauch and Huggett. As his popularity increased due to his great customer service and good products, he decided to go full in on this niche market and started to come out with what you see on his website today. He's not only making standalone LDC's, but also making adapters, custom LDC's, shrouds, etc. which no one else is doing, especially here in the USA. Overseas in the UK and elsewhere where there are no "perceived murky rules on LDC's for airguns" like here, you can buy them easily in a gun store.

    His LDC's are top notch. I own several, including the Tanto, Sumo, and Ronin. His fast shipping, great customer service, constant product development, and listening to customers, makes him the guy to deal with in the future.

    I think the reason you see his products for sale on the forums is that people try out his LDC's, figure out that it may not be what they wanted, and ultimately go back to purchase a different version. Nothing wrong with that.

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    JU
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    DonnyFL has very good products with the best service you could get. If he sold everything I need I would buy everything from him. I have the Ronin .30 and it works great.

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    Anthony Jarvis
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    I have had a Neil Clague for a .25 Mrod not really a sound difference when I used it. That was about 7-8yrs ago maybe he has a new design. I have had a Huggett very nice design dampens the sound but not very much. I was using the Huggett on a .25 wildcat. 

    Then in comes the Donny designs very well made and gets the job done! I have used the Shogun on a .22 Hatsan Gladius and all you here is the click from the internals. I have also used the Tatsu from Donny and it too is nice and works very well. 

    Donnys LDC is a bit on the higher end but you know the old saying. “You get what you pay for”

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    Jld1969
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    Well sounds like no one knows what they are talking about to answer your questions let's start by answering yes they are quite in fact tested all Donny fl moderators are min of 5% quiet to 10% quieter. 

    Question #2 price look at huggett brand and they are also a new kind called trident.     Donny fl is a lot less in price!

    3#  but the most important question is Quality i have all 3 brands none of the other 2 even comes close to a Donny fl amazing quality and craftsmanship and his customer service is the best. But for those who don't believe I did the research for you. john Day

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    DeadEyeDill
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    Well from what i hear everyone loves donny fl!

    The only flaw in his products are the price.if donny made all his own products that would be different. But everything is very high quality. But like i say he does not make them he out sources his products to a Machine shop so its his products that he does not make 

    Now I've owned a shroud and ldc from him for my vulcan and it was by far the quietest vulcan I've heard.

    I think alot of people sell the donnys because they sell for almost full cost in the classifieds. With then selling at that kinda used price people can sell them and yry a different one to see if it fits them and the gun better.

    In my opinion you can't go wrong with donnys products! Well that unless you have access to the machinery to make your own!!

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    spysir
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    Should be about equal in sound if everything else ( size) is about the same.

    They sell well do to marketing in todays latest greatest gotta have market as they do look the best and many have disposable income and want every accessory they can get.

    Many ( I would think pretty much all who are truly legally shooting ) do not NEED one so after having some fun sell them.

    Not sure where the above trident prices are from but I would be happy to sell some for 10% off that price.

    There are now many many options from overseas that suddenly will ship.

      Do keep in mind they are made to fit unknown stack tolerances which is why we read of it being suggested folks go a size to large to avoid clipping. Having the smallest dia/ baffle holes is the difference in sound if everything else was equal. 

     They look cool! A 16mm shroud will do as much but doesnt have the black gun tacticool look folks want.

    Donnys stuff is as good as others. Other's are likely as good as donnys but he hit the market at the right time, has a sharp looking product with cool names AND has outstanding customers service.  As 99% of folks do not need a ldc I would think they all work good enough and finding good customer service these day's sure can make something a good deal.

     

     

    John

     

     

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    stony30
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    I've used tko22 ldcs on a Prod,  Spa Varmint , Hatsan Bullmaster and Hatsan .30 caliber Bully. All have been outstanding. Mike Tiehen is an awesome person to talk to and answers all calls to his website personally. His prices are about $30 to $50 less and just as effective as Donnys. I had a Ronin on my Taipan Veteran shorty and a buddy of mine has a Sumo on a .357 Windy city rifle.

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    FunGun
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    I have a Huggett and I have a DonnyFL SUMO.  I would take the Sumo over the Huggett on the points that matter most to me.  Effectiveness, Cost, Quality of build, and Physical looks.  The Huggett has some nice lines as far as appearance, but the Sumo is very nice too.  If you want a streamline barrel to moderator transition then the Huggett would win on that "look or appearance".  I will keep my huggett, but I won't buy another, but I will buy another DonnyFL, that is for sure.  Hope this helps?

    Customer service goes to DonnyFL, great guy and easy to work with and get in contact with.  Does not get any better than that.

    EDIT 8.20.18 ran across this pic I took of my Sumo, so I thought I would share.

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    intenseaty22
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    I posted this to your other post on this same subject. My thoughts on Donny FL LDCs.

    BTW. I think the Huggetts are aesthetically very pleasing. They are very effective as well. But for my money, DFL. 

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    DonnyFL has very good products with the best service you could get. If he sold everything I need I would buy everything from him. I have the Ronin .30 and it works great.

    I have a .30 Donnyfl Shogun that I use on both my 600mm .30 barrel and the .25 700mm Impact barrel. Dual use and I like the look. One LDC 2 calibers = Quiet at the gun, but the impact point on targets are loud.

    I've seen Hugget, Neal's and others. For me it's looks and how much it does it's job. I believe they are really close in silencing, and it is up to you what kind of look you want for your particular Airgun.  

     

    Next invention is the Target impact silencer!  Please give me credit if you invent one!

     

     

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    DonnyFL has very good products with the best service you could get. If he sold everything I need I would buy everything from him. I have the Ronin .30 and it works great.

    I have a .30 Donnyfl Shogun that I use on both my 600mm .30 barrel and the .25 700mm Impact barrel. Dual use and I like the look. One LDC 2 calibers = Quiet at the gun, but the impact point on targets are loud.

    I've seen Hugget, Neal's and others. For me it's looks and how much it does it's job. I believe they are really close in silencing, and it is up to you what kind of look you want for your particular Airgun.  

     

    Next invention is the Target impact silencer!  Please give me credit if you invent one!

     

     

    Yep, my gun is nice and quiet with the Ronin but when the .30 pellet hits a squirrel it sounds like a tire exploded. It's disappointing but that's the cost of a larger caliber. 

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    DonnyFL has very good products with the best service you could get. If he sold everything I need I would buy everything from him. I have the Ronin .30 and it works great.

    I have a .30 Donnyfl Shogun that I use on both my 600mm .30 barrel and the .25 700mm Impact barrel. Dual use and I like the look. One LDC 2 calibers = Quiet at the gun, but the impact point on targets are loud.

    I've seen Hugget, Neal's and others. For me it's looks and how much it does it's job. I believe they are really close in silencing, and it is up to you what kind of look you want for your particular Airgun.  

     

    Next invention is the Target impact silencer!  Please give me credit if you invent one!

     

     

    Yep, my gun is nice and quiet with the Ronin but when the .30 pellet hits a squirrel it sounds like a tire exploded. It's disappointing but that's the cost of a larger caliber. 

    Indeed… when my Brocock Bantam .25 pellet slams a prairie dog there's quite an audible THWAP!  But when it hits a little .22 spinner target, quite a loud THWANG!

    A lot of great input regarding Donny FL here… thanks very much.  

     

    I know very little about moderators, aside that I have a Trident on my Brocock Bantam .25 and it's perhaps a bit louder than I might want for backyard shooting.  Could be largely due to the size of the caliber… I guess?

     

    Do you pick a larger size moderator to get more quiet?  Is that why the different sizes exist.  Bigger is quieter?

     

    I will be picking up an FX .22 (Streamline or Wildcat, most likely) in the near future and need to know what would be among the best choices for a moderator for that rifle.  It will be used for backyard plinking and paper punching mostly, so I'd like to keep as quiet as reasonably possible.

     

    So, please… what would be the best choices in a Donny FL moderator for a Streamline or Wildcat .22?  And, would it make sense to buy one that would also work on my Brocock Bantam .25?

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    AnimalHitman
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    Well, airgunfan; what sets DonnyFL apart for me (aside from the stellar customer service) is that each component of his moderators is CNC-machine threaded; no epoxy. The units can be easily disassembled for cleaning and replacement of the felt. Also, DonnyFL offers a plethora of threaded adapters and extensions that can be screwed directly on to virtually any platform. Plus, every review I have seen shows that DonnyFL's designs reduce muzzle noise most effectively. I, of course, am open to any review that shows otherwise.

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    AnimalHitman
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    jld, ya get what ya pay for.

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