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Olevey

Olevey

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You go through the classifieds and someone is selling a gun for far more than it is worth, and lists the suggested msrp that they supposedly paid? I always feel like making a comment when there is a gun or shooting accessory for sale and a simple google search reveals brand new same items for less or about the same. However in the interest of following the rules of the forums I do not respond at all. I always wonder if there are any noobs that get taken for these artificially inflated prices. Everyone who buys one of my used guns gets an excellent deal as I look at like this. If I buy a gun for $1000, use it for three months then sell it for $700 I basically paid $300 to rent it and check it out. So far I have had an Evanix Max ML and Rainstorm II, Ataman Type 2 Walnut Bullpup, Air Arms S510, Brocock Compatto, Prod, Vulcan Bullpup, and still have an Air Ranger and a Kral PB. These were all acquired during a relatively short time period. I realize I lost some money which is an obvious negative but on the positive side I have really tried a bunch of guns. The only two I purchased new were the Kral and the Brocock all the rest were used
 
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Exactly it occurs all the time on ebay too. I watch many ads get placed, expire, then get placed again with ridiculous prices. They take so long to sell that, especially in technology, by the time they do they item has forgone at least 2 price drops and the seller if he or she ever sells it all will have to settle for much less. I wonder if they even have the item or if they just wait to buy it until a sucker agrees to pay the high price.
 
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They probably don't have the item. Just like the seller on tv does not have a Snuggy. That's why it always says "please allow 6-8 weeks for shipping."

They collect a bunch of money, then place the order to have them manufactured and then ship it to you... However, stuff like that doesn't bother me, as the price is what it is. But those dudes on eBay that charge 5 times as much piss me off.

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It's buyer beware. One guy had a used Streamline for sale for more than new! The only thing it had going for it was it was available, and the new have been sold out and are on back order.

I also want to point out that I have a couple of CO2s, and springers that I rarely use, but I can't waste my time and effort pricing them below new and then fussing with payment and the hassle of shipping to make them worth selling.
 
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Most people ask for more than they really expect to get. But someone in a hurry without researching may purchase the item and the seller makes more money. If it doesn't sell they expect to continue bumping their item by lowering the price by small amounts. Keeping their item in view, eventually they may get down to a reasonable price. It is up to you to negotiate the price. 

The internet can give a buyer, especially on forums, an unrealistic expectation that they are dealing with a real friend that will give them the best deal ever.

Always buyer beware do your homework. This is capitalism if you don't like the price want to take the time to negotiate move on. 

There re are more unscrupulous people on the internet eBay forums etc. , lets face it do you really know the organizations, sellers, people you are dealing with on the internet, keep your defenses up or suffer the consequences. 

i view most most offers with a a degree of skeptisim keep it real.

This is is not a total condemnation of internet transactions or folks on the internet but keep your radar on. 

There re are good honest folks/businesses on the internet also.

But it even honest folks want to get as much as they can and a few may actually offer something initially at a fair reasonable price but they are the exception. 
 
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I feel exactly the same. One time, a seller was offering a Crosman for more than the 25% off price from the coupon code here, then wanted $25 shipping, when it would be free from Crosman. I PM'd that guy a polite message telling him so. He replied that he was waiting for someone to make him an offer. I just want to reply with: "This isn't Craigslist. Do your homework and offer it at a reasonable price and quit wasting bandwidth."

This is how it works on Craigslist, in my experience. Offer something at a firm, reasonable price, and no one is interested. Offer it a bit high, then allow them to bargain you down and they're happy.

Re. ebay, I blame it on the fact that they stopped charging listing fees. If it cost these idiots $0.50 every time they listed something at ridiculous prices, assuming some idiot is going to fall for it, they wouldn't have to charge 10% final value fee. :mad:

I find with sales fora, folks are more reasonable and straightforward.
 
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I just saw a pristine 1973 Sheridan 5mm with teh factory installed peep on gunbroker.com. It is due to sell in less than five hours and is at $387.00. Pretty sure that gun sold for $70.00 in 1973... It has beautiful wood. I'd love to have it but at that price I can't... even so I think the price is about right on that item.
 
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"oldspook"I just saw a 1973 Sheridan 5mm with teh factory installed peep on gunbroker.com. It is due to sell in less than five hours and is at $387.00. Pretty sure that gun sold for $70.00 in 1973... It has beautiful wood. I'd love to have it but at that price I can't... even so I think the price is about right on that item.
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I have that one bookmarked just to see the final selling price...There is some nice figure in the stock and I would also like to have it myself. I am guessing it will go for over 5 bills. Buyers on gunbroker are a little nutty sometimes.

Sellers prices don't bother me much. I just chuckle and move on.
 
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I'd never expect to buy or sell a used rifle, no matter how nearly new, for the price of the lowest I can get from a reputable dealer. In fact, those price drops on Daystates at AoA have been great for most folks but kicked my back pocket even more than a typical used discount would! But what can you do, you sure can't expect a buyer to help ease that pain.

I agree with the original poster's logic. Sometimes it cost 25% plus to simply have tried out the gun for a few months. I will say though, that in both air rifles and bows, I've never bought one that I ever thought I'd sell, but it often happens. 

The area where I see folks paying nearly the same price is in for custom recurve bows that take 12-24 months to wait on. I've paid nearly new a time or two in those cases because I don't want to wait that long. And yep, I'm a bow nut (bowwild) and I've waited 18 months for a couple of customs with very exotic woods. 

By the way, I don't think badly of any party (if it matters what I think and it shouldn't) no matter what price the seller asks or what the buyer offers.
 
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"oldspook"I just saw a pristine 1973 Sheridan 5mm with teh factory installed peep on gunbroker.com. It is due to sell in less than five hours and is at $387.00. Pretty sure that gun sold for $70.00 in 1973... It has beautiful wood. I'd love to have it but at that price I can't... even so I think the price is about right on that item.
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With those antique or older collectors item guns it usually seems to be a more subjective price tag, especially because there isnt many others to compare it to. I remember my dad had a 67 Vette that sold way back for like 4,000 bucks, man I wish I had that thing now!
 
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"bowwild"I'd never expect to buy or sell a used rifle, no matter how nearly new for the price of the lowest I can get from a reputable dealer. In fact, those price drops on Daystates at AoA have been great for most folks but kicked my back pocket even more than a typical used discount would! But what can you do, you sure can't expect a buyer to help ease that pain.

I agree with the original poster's logic. Sometimes it cost 25% plus to simply have tried out the gun for a few months. I will say though, that in both air rifles and bows, I've never bought one that I ever thought I'd sell, but it often happens. 

The area where I see folks paying nearly the same price is in for custom recurve bows that take 12-24 months to wait on. I've paid nearly new a time or two in those cases because I don't want to wait that long. And yep, I'm a bow nut (bowwild) and I've waited 18 months for a couple of customs with very exotic woods.
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Why is there such a long lead time for the custom recurves? Are they very difficult to make?
 
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They are mostly handmade and have many steps to put together the risers and the limbs. They don't take that long (12-18 months) its just that the really popular bowyers are backlogged and most are 1-man operations. You generally pay a couple hundred down to hold your place in line. Then a month or so before you bow is up, you make all your final decisions regarding certain specifications. I suppose they can build your bow in a week or 10 days (several at a time being made). Of course one can go the non-custom route and get bows off the shelf or some that are very popular but less custom, in 8-12 weeks 

If you want to see the quality of some of these visits the blacktail bow site and click on "In Stock".
 
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"EvoShift"This type of ridiculous pricing has continued on the Corvette Forum for 20 years.

After a few months of wasting my time trying to buy a car for a fair price from unreasonable sellers,
I always just end up buying new.
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I just got a Corvette too, I love it. Had to get it from a dealer though because I needed to have a warranty for peace of mind.
 
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"Olevey"
"EvoShift"This type of ridiculous pricing has continued on the Corvette Forum for 20 years.

After a few months of wasting my time trying to buy a car for a fair price from unreasonable sellers,
I always just end up buying new.
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I just got a Corvette too, I love it. Had to get it from a dealer though because I needed to have a warranty for peace of mind.
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Modern Corvettes run forever and are cheap to maintain.
You don't need a warranty.
I started buying new Corvettes in 1997 when they became worth buying (C5),
and stopped buying them when they fell behind the competition.(C7)
Hoping the C8 catches up to Corvette's competition from all the way back in 2009.

Although the moderators and many of the members are complete D-bags,
Corvette Forum is a great source of info and support.
Hope you got a manual transmission, because GM torque converter transmissions have no business in a performace car.
Next, you need a set of ARH or Kooks 1 7/8 headers, a ECS centrifugal supercharger, meth injection, and then leave it alone and enjoy it. 
 
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