Do you want to own a semi and full-automatic pcp air gun?

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Have you ever intended to create a semi-automatic pcp yet ?
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I changed the policy and now I can tell about any guns I made ONLY when they are ready to be sold, no earlier. So, the variation of the answers to you question is from "I never did it" to "I have them made already and start to sell them tomorrow..." :)



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.... I, too, am pellet usage conscious due to cost. I see most folks ordering semi auto guns in 22 cal probably for that reason, that 22 cal pellets are cheaper....

The mind set I feel I would have by getting one in a 30 is, at $15-$18/tin for 150, I would use that gun for the sole purpose of hunting and being able to get quick follow up shots. No way I’m gonna be using it to turn oranges and pumpkins into Swiss cheese. Too expensive to be doing that. So, if you get what I’m putting down here, buying a semi auto that consumes high dollar pellets will or should, not be too expensive to shoot cause the cost of the pellets sort of “police” you from going crazy.

The two things that are keeping me from investing in one right now, is budget for one, but mainly accuracy reviews. I don’t see too many folks showing off targets measured with calipers like we all do with single shot pcp’s.
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Yes, to everything above. Again, making a 10/22 reference, just think of the HUGE volume of terrible Remington Golden Bullets being consumed by cheap semiautomatic rimfire rifles. Everyone knows the ammo is crapola, but when you have a BUCKET of them that you can blow through, you end up with a huge smile on your face. I once sat in a meeting with Hewlet-Packard reps and in front of a huge group of IT people actually called their printers "ink delivery units" so let's remember that profits can be significant from the "consumables". 

With the cost of 500 Crosman Premier pellets hovering around $6 for a 500 count tin from Walmart, how could anyone complain? And yes, we can all agree that leaving our digital calipers at home would be fine!

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I’m with Matt on this one. One of the things that really irks me here in CA is that no lead law in bullets. It started down south, and has made its way here and all across the state. I know I’m not the only reloader with a cabinet full of lead filled hunting bullets, awaiting to be reloaded using the “magic” recipe for a load that took us a long time to develop. Now, all those rounds have become target only rounds, and the development stage for a hunting round using more expensive non lead bullets are a chore and expense I’m not looking forward to.

Everyone is leaving us Airgun shooters alone- for now. Why draw attention to ourselves for the joy of hitting the same tin can 100x within five seconds? Boooorrrrinnngg if you ask me. Now there’s about two tins of lead all over the place. With a Swiss cheesed can. Wow.
 
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Have you ever intended to create a semi-automatic pcp yet ?
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I changed the policy and now I can tell about any guns I made ONLY when they are ready to be sold, no earlier. So, the variation of the answers to you question is from "I never did it" to "I have them made already and start to sell them tomorrow..." :)





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqDWk6YfmPA

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I have watched this video for a long time, including this pcp gun.

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but i don't want to have to charge a pcp gun.
 
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I like the semi autos I have a Huben 22 fantastic shooter I prefer not to have to cock between shots an I believe in the one shot one kill but when you have multiple targets it's nice to just move over to the next target an fire, I had one of the Evanix Max Bullpups in 22 select fire it was a hoot to shoot and pretty accurate on full auto wasted a lot of pellets with, but the Drozd Blackbird is the best all round full auto BB gun you can just blow things apart or cut them down, I'm looking at the Evanix Max Bullpup they are selling now just waiting on them to work the bugs out before I get one.
 
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No, those do not appeal to me. Have plenty of semi-automatic powder burners and ammo for them. The real appeal of air gunning for me is the one shot. one kill aspect. A rifle that will hit a target dead on accurate at ranges out to 100 meters and the challenge of windage, drop, temperature etc that go into each calculated shot is what I enjoy.

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About sums it up for me!
 
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Im in for SEMI auto...... but NOT full auto. FA is just gonna be waving a big red flag in front of the Alphabet org.... then the anti's will find out and itll be regulated or outright banned



Semi will allow follow up shots quickly, will allow a shot without taking your hands off the gun to cycle the bolt. Semi doenst encourage "spray and pray", but its on the nut pulling the trigger to avoid blazing thru your magazine. Self-restraint goes a long way to avoid wasting pellets.



Ive not bought one cuz they are still on the cusp of too expense and reliablity is/can be a factor....... 
 
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My concern would be safety. Airguns anyway have a problem of not be "unloadable" because there are no extractor/ ejector mechanism. At least with a bolt action airgun one can choose to load a pellet, but with a self loader, one wouldn't even have that choice. There will always be a loaded gun unless one finishes off a magazine/ clip. That's not safe in my opinion.

As for a quick follow up shot-- how quick does it even need to be? A properly designed straight pull bolt will reload in less than a second. Problem is that airgun bolt handles were not designed ergonomically for a quick reload. Sidelevers are actually the worst design from an ergonomic point of view, but that's what's popular in the airgun world. A bolt with a bent bolt handle that's just above or slightly above and behind the trigger will allow really quick reloads.


 
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Semi auto would be good fun to me. Natural almost since every PB gun I own is. 

But, davadsng comment about how "A forward cocking handle on the weak hand of the shooter can be 75% of a semi auto but has much better reliability." is a good point. 

75% is a bit faster than I can make my Colibri cycle, but his point is sound. 

I believe the air gun manufactures would sell far more guns with an extremely short, very easy and fast to cock action like the Colibri, than the actual semi/full autos. 

I might be wrong.....because I'd buy a Kalibrgun semi auto if they ever make one.

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I agree that the Colibri is about as good as it gets with regards to easy, and fast multi shot follow up shots, utilizing a nice short, straight back bolt cycle.

However, if the Kalibrgun Capybara SA ever makes it to the market, and they get the reliability nailed down, I'll buy one.

I owned a fx monsoon long ago and liked it, but sold it because It was just too long for my liking. I like shorter rifles. My Steyr hunting 5 Scout SA is great, but with only a five shot magazine, you have to change mags too frequently.

I have no desire for full auto. I got to play with those when I was in the army. I'm over that.


 
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My god. Have none of ya heard of the Steyr Hunting 5? You all just haven’t seen the light. Yes. I love mine. I’ll try to answer the misgivings mentioned. A semi automatic is a faster follow up shot period. And by not moving anything to reload you can place your next shot where your last shot landed on the scope picture. Very useful with wind. You can unload the 5 shot magazine so it doesn’t have one in the chamber. Just because it’s a semi doesn’t mean you blow through led. It just means you can really concentrate on the target and pellet strike. At closer range, multiple targets(squirrels) are doable where cocking would lose them. Calipers? We don’t need no stinking calipers. While it is fun putting pellet on pellet on paper with this gun, it’s called Hunting 5 for a reason. And that’s where a semi really shines.
 
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