Two non suppressed air rifles. One is a PCP and the other a springer. Both shooting the same pellet at say 750 fps. Would they both emit the same level of report on not excluding the mechanical noise of the springer. Does anyone know.
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Do they sound the same
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The PCP is generally lauder unless it is shrouded. However, a non tuned springer can be twangy and laud too so it all depends on the model. For example, I had a cheap Crosman springer that was very laud. So give us the rifles you are curious about and we could give you more specificity. In general though, PCPs are lauder. If you have something like a Talonp without a moderator it sounds like a 22lr on full power. Most PCPs are lauder than a springer.
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Does a popping balloon emit the same level of report as a bellows of the same air volume being stroked?
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Airgun.cal it was just a general question. If the twangy (mechanical) noise of the springer was removed from the cycle are you saying that a pcp would be louder.
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AirNGasman I don’t know but I would guess that the popping balloon would be louder. I’m at a disadvantage as I’ve never heard air being expelled from a bellows
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Springer is less laud, usually. My tuned hw95 is very quiet compared to most PCP, about 1/5 the noise and no twang. If you shoot a single stroke pneumatic piston in the magnum class, the noise can match a PCP sometimes. The noise also depends on the caliber.
Think of it this way: in one gun you have an a valve being opened and all the air being released for that shot in an instant. On another rifle you have the piston or spring moving along and pushing that air in a not so efficient process that is not instant. That air takes longer to get out, and there is more noise at a lower decibel over a greater period of time, and the PCP has a higher dB for a shorter amount of time (usually).
Hope that is more straight forward.
Think of it this way: in one gun you have an a valve being opened and all the air being released for that shot in an instant. On another rifle you have the piston or spring moving along and pushing that air in a not so efficient process that is not instant. That air takes longer to get out, and there is more noise at a lower decibel over a greater period of time, and the PCP has a higher dB for a shorter amount of time (usually).
Hope that is more straight forward.
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PCP depends on what brand and model. If it's a STEYR it sounds like a 22 Rimfire. Others range from a balloon pop to a car backfire to a CB 22 or a nail gun. Compared to a Springer that sounds like a staple gun or this...
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Okay Gary, allow me to rephrase. Does a tire blowing-out emit the same level of report as the same tire slashed?
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A PCP is louder ...a lot louder.....that is why they need a baffle,moderator etc to quiet them,there is a big difference in their noise levels.
My CO2s are also louder as is my dog.....
That is the way it is......a booggg vs a Bam
Hot air abounds.
My CO2s are also louder as is my dog.....
That is the way it is......a booggg vs a Bam
Hot air abounds.
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Or a sneaky pffft!!! or a very LOUD DELIBERATE "DRY" FART EXPLOSION! NO FLAPPAGE INDEED!!! Do a simple search on WHY ARE SOME FARTS LOUDER THAN OTHERS?
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Most PCPs I look at are shrouded in some fashion-so that is nice. I once had a POS Ruger Yukon .22 Magnam that sounded like an unsurpassed Talon. It was junk and had an attached plastic moderator that did nothing to dampen the noise. I gave it away.
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Or a sneaky pffft!!! or a very LOUD DELIBERATE "DRY" FART EXPLOSION! NO FLAPPAGE INDEED!!! Do a simple search on WHY ARE SOME FARTS LOUDER THAN OTHERS?
Strange but very relevant lol
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Can you get a regulator for the sphincter, and a moderator for the anus to control and quiet those farts, Yo?
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YO's post is TMI for me BUTT.......
Why fart and waste it when you can burp and taste it?
Did you ever walk through a crowd and "crop dust" them?
Seriously though. Not all untuned springers twang. Mostly just Weihrauchs. LOL! They make up for it with a superior trigger I guess.
I can make a spring guide easy enough. Can't think of anything that machines easier than Delrin. Not so easy for me to make a quality trigger mechanism.
I think pneumatic blast is louder than a springer that produces similar fpe
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AirNGasman thankyou I now know the difference. To Yo and the other responders thankyou for the comedy and explanations.
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I'm glad your back...
Thanks for the info. In terms of loudness, I believe I have a PCP sphincter as opposed to a Springer sphincter. Never knew that before. Can anyone tell me, if a round turd breaks the sound barrier will my POI shift in the bowl?
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