Discovery Scope…fool me twice shame on me….or maybe the supplier?

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    DanielL
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    Anyone ever have any bad luck with Discovery scopes?  I bought a 5-20×50 SFIR FFP scope that I really liked.  So I tried buying another and the illumination was buggy…it was dim and blinked on several settings (thought maybe I had a bad battery but a battery change didn't help.)  So, I did a replacement return and that one didn't blink but was dim on all settings.  Argh!!!!  I'm thinking maybe I should give up and go for a different brand or maybe it is a vendor issue.  Perhaps this guy is selling refurbs or seconds?

    They are sold as ApexHorizon brand, even though there is no relabeling on the package and they are straight up Discovery scopes.

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    DanielL

    Anyone ever have any bad luck with Discovery scopes?  I bought a 5-20×50 SFIR FFP scope that I really liked.  So I tried buying another and the illumination was buggy…it was dim and blinked on several settings (thought maybe I had a bad battery but a battery change didn't help.)  So, I did a replacement return and that one didn't blink but was dim on all settings.  Argh!!!!  I'm thinking maybe I should give up and go for a different brand or maybe it is a vendor issue.  Perhaps this guy is selling refurbs or seconds?

    They are sold as ApexHorizon brand, even though there is no relabeling on the package and they are straight up Discovery scopes.

    Discovery scopes suck! Every discovery I've had the illumination didn't function properly poi shifted when changing magnification. The customer service was great, but quality is trash save for something else! Jmho

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    JimNM
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    Ummm, you bought a knock off and wonder why it does not work right?  How much did you save by getting a factory second? 

     

    I think it is not right to blast Discovery in the title and then reveal you actually bought rejects under a different name. 

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    JimNM

    Ummm, you bought a knock off and wonder why it does not work right?  How much did you save by getting a factory second? 

     

    I think it is not right to blast Discovery in the title and then reveal you actually bought rejects under a different name. 

    There was nothing in the description of the item that said it was a knock-off, refurb or second.  It IS a Discovery scope sold by ApexHorizon.  I just wondered if the issue was with the supplier or the scope itself.

    I think I'll check out Cyclops latest reviews and look for something with a better reputation.

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    I have a Discovery  6-24 that the only clear parallax is at about 10 yards. It was fine for about 6 months. I started trying to get something done in September of last year. I got a couple of emails and then was told that because of all the unrest that it would be a while before they would let me know. I have sent emails, at least 2 every week since November and have not had a reply. Worst customer service I have ever had from ANY scope company. Put me in that same   shame on me group-. Mine is not a knockoff but it might be good for a knockout  on Discovery. Too many good scope makers to ever sway me to another sorry a** Discovery.

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    L.Leon
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    A lot of people like them and say they’re good, me I went with an Athlon, proven scopes with proven good customer service and warranties.

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    L.Leon

    A lot of people like them and say they’re good, me I went with an Athlon, proven scopes with proven good customer service and warranties.

    I have two that have been great…including this very one I tried to order again.

    Based on Cyclops review I ordered a Athlon Talos BTR, 4-14×44 FFP, APLR2 MIL reticle.  Wish me luck!  😃

     

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    JimNM

    Ummm, you bought a knock off and wonder why it does not work right?  How much did you save by getting a factory second? 

     

    I think it is not right to blast Discovery in the title and then reveal you actually bought rejects under a different name. 

    Are you the forum attorney? Your always running your mouth about someone else's post! 

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    I bought 2 of the Discovery 5-20×50 SFIR FFP from Airgun Optics Plus and have had no problems with them.  A while back a guy on YouTube did a rant on a Discovery scope he bought on Amazon.  Amazon would not deal with a return since it was from a third party.  Nowadays you really need to be careful where you buy from. 

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    I bought 2 of the Discovery 5-20×50 SFIR FFP from Airgun Optics Plus and have had no problems with them.  A while back a guy on YouTube did a rant on a Discovery scope he bought on Amazon.  Amazon would not deal with a return since it was from a third party.  Nowadays you really need to be careful where you buy from. 

    I think my first one might have been from AOP too.  He didn't have that model or many Discovery illuminated FFP's in stock when I went back to get another so I went with the Amazon reseller that didn't have a bad rating.  He has at least one 1 star rating now…or will when mine gets approved. 😂

    Had no issue with Amazon return but I made sure to order one that Amazon stocked and shipped.  It is iffy on support when you buy from a source that ships directly. 

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    I bought 2 of the Discovery 5-20×50 SFIR FFP from Airgun Optics Plus and have had no problems with them.  A while back a guy on YouTube did a rant on a Discovery scope he bought on Amazon.  Amazon would not deal with a return since it was from a third party.  Nowadays you really need to be careful where you buy from. 

    I think my first one might have been from AOP too.  He didn't have that model or many Discovery illuminated FFP's in stock when I went back to get another so I went with the Amazon reseller that didn't have a bad rating.  He has at least one 1 star rating now…or will when mine gets approved. 😂

    Had no issue with Amazon return but I made sure to order one that Amazon stocked and shipped.  It is iffy on support when you buy from a source that ships directly. 

    It is really hard to say where your bad scope came from.  Many years ago I worked for a computer electronics company that had a great warranty on their products.  Our company sold custom ASICs and boards that used those ASICs.  Our board products were used both by consumers and large computer manufacturers.  In the early 90's, we moved all of our chip and board manufacturing offshore.  We eventually ended up with our own board manufacturing plant in Singapore.  Around the year 2000 things got real interesting.  Boards were being returned for warranty repairs that were not manufactured by us.  The circuit boards were near perfect copies but were missing a few details like the original designers initials.  We took corrective action to prevent this from happening going forward.  The weird thing was these boards contained custom ASICs that were not available to any of our customers.  

    Hakko a soldering station manufacturer has been dealing with counterfeit products for years.  Counterfeits were even being sold on Amazon.  In our brave new world, you really have to be careful who you buy from.     

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    I own ten (10) Discovery scopes and have had issues with two (2) that had intermittent side illumination switch issues. All the rest have been great performers. In my collection, I also have many Hawke, Athlon, Aztec, Bushnell, Nikon and UTG of all of them the brand that I have had to send back to be fixed more than any other has not been Discovery but it is one of the top three I've listed.

    The biggest take away I can give anyone as it relates to purchasing anything, is the dealer, rep or supplier. They make the difference in any purchase which when it comes to Discovery scopes, Airgun Optics Plus (Charlie Sexton) is the man. He is based in the US, he handles things correctly and truly earns your business. I'm not saying that the scopes that Charlie reps are somehow devoid of manufacturer issues, I'm saying that his initial review of the product eliminates 90% of the issues that exist in a warehouse parts picker type scenario. If you do have an issue, he handles it as you would handle it, he handles it.

    All manufacturers have their production issues but it is how those issues are addressed that make or break my allegiance with the product. I am the type of guy who supports good people doing good things even if it means I not part of the in-crowd doing the in-crowd thing. 

     

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    I own ten (2) Discovery scopes and have had issues with two (2) that had intermittent side illumination switch issues. All the rest have been great performers. In my collection, I also have many Hawke, Athlon, Aztec, Bushnell, Nikon and UTG of all of them the brand that I have had to send back to be fixed more than any other has not been Discovery but it is one of the top three I've listed.

    The biggest take away I can give anyone as it relates to purchasing anything, is the dealer, rep or supplier. They make the difference in any purchase which when it comes to Discovery scopes, Air Optics Plus (Charlie Sexton) is the man. He is based in the US, he handles things correctly and truly earns your business. I not saying that the scopes that Charlie reps are somehow devoid of manufacturer issues, I'm saying that his initial review of the product eliminates 90% of the issues that exist in a parts picker scenario. If if you do have an issue, he handles it as you would handle it, he handles it.

    All manufacturers have their production issues but it is how those issues are addressed that make or break my allegiance with the product. I am the type of guy who supports good people doing good things even if it means I not part of the in-crowd doing the in-crowd thing. 

      

     

    I couldn't agree more with your sentiment on dealers taking care of their customers and treating the issue as if it was their own…Thumbs up to you Haji for not just being a sheep 👍

     

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    I have a discovery 6-24×44 sfIR . Love it . 
    Im wondering how well discovery stacks up in relation to Aztec and hawke glass. 
    YOU OWN 10 ! So that alone says a lot !

    thx, Chris 

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    Hutch3030
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    Airgunopticsplus.com is the place to go for discovery in the U.S !!

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    Dairyboy
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    I've owned many Discovery scopes and never had an issue. However I also don't use the illuminated features on any of my scopes. Would actually prefer scopes without them

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    wyshadow
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    I have three discovery scopes and none have given me any issues but like everyone, no manufacturer is perfect. Hajimoto made a great point

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    Rodeo
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    I got a Discovery VT-T 6-24×50 for Christmas.  I put it on my R10 mk2.  REALLY liking this scope!  I have been switching to dialing instead of using holdover and am appreciating the center dot reticle.  The eye box is more forgiving than the Athlon Argos BTR 6-24 that is on my Wildcat.  The thought of switching the Discovery to the Wildcat has crossed my mind.

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    DanielL
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    To me, illumination is essential for picking up those fine FFP crosshairs in darker background conditions.  They need to be bright and reliable.

    I've got two Discovery scopes that fit that bill well and two that were duds.  That isn't a great good to bad ratio!

    Going to try some other brands that got rated well to see how they compare.

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    cowabunka
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    on the subject of discovery scope, i recently got the 6×24 VTT off amazon.

    Glass is clear, tracks great etc. But for some reason the optical zero is way too high and I ran out of vertical elevation.

    I thought it was the cheapo mounts that came with the scope so I ordered the eagle vision adjustable mounts.

    But even with the new mounts, the optical zero is still high prior to physically adjusting the mounts.

    Does anyone share this experience? The scope works great now, just didn't thought i would need special mounts for it.

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