Guys here is the video I promised of the new Discovery Brand scope . Spoiler alert ....It's NICE !!!!!!!
Discovery 4.5-18 FFP Video
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Joe,
Nice job.
What was the magnification set at when you did your "run-out test"? Seems like you were, in a sense, "measuring" the depth-of-field at that magnification.
This could be important information for a Field Target shooter who relies on side focus to range the target.
Nice job.
What was the magnification set at when you did your "run-out test"? Seems like you were, in a sense, "measuring" the depth-of-field at that magnification.
This could be important information for a Field Target shooter who relies on side focus to range the target.
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It was 12 x . I usually try and do that right at hhalfwayup the magnification. Scoe did unbelievable for it's price !!! Hell my 850$ Weaver Tactical didn't do that well ...No Bullpoop
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Joe, are you saying that this is a better choice than a 10X SWFA, from a function/quality standpoint? I was just getting ready to buy and that seemed like the quality leader at the $300 price point.
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Better is hard to say ...The swfa has a proven track record for sure . But a LOT of guys don't like the fixed power o their scopes .
Put it like this , If I wanted a ruggd fixed scope swfa is way to go
If I wanted a FFP that works great and isn't overpriced .This is the best I've seen ..period
Put it like this , If I wanted a ruggd fixed scope swfa is way to go
If I wanted a FFP that works great and isn't overpriced .This is the best I've seen ..period
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Thanks for the reply, and a really big thanks for all your videos! I apologize for not making my question clearer. I love fixed power scopes and I am really liking FFP scopes lately too. I generaly do keep my scopes set at around 10x anyway but options are always good to have. With the Discovery set to 10x is the view better than the 10x SWFA, wider, clearer, eye box size, eye relief? Which scope, set to 10x, would you rather be looking through for a couple of hours of shooting? Thanks for your insights. (pun intended)
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Puma the swfa . No doubt for me personally...I love fixed power scopes . Just a weird personal tick .
But if I were buying a FFP this would be it
But if I were buying a FFP this would be it
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I see it. I see it. Leaning more and more towards FFP. Do not struggle it Joe. When you get the FFP under your skin, there is no way back. ?
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Joe, nice review! Thank you for sharing. I'm probably going to pick one up based on your review.
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Gunnar I'm beginning to see the light on FFP scopes. For guys on a budget ( like me ) this is the best I've seen . Period.
I didnt want the video to sound like a sales pitch or anything, but if I can let guys know of companies with awful customer service....i ican also give guys the heads up on vendors who still value their customers
I didnt want the video to sound like a sales pitch or anything, but if I can let guys know of companies with awful customer service....i ican also give guys the heads up on vendors who still value their customers
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Joe,
You speak of "runout error" when adjusting the side focus. Runout error could show up when wiggling the eyepiece, or wiggling a front objective. But you were fixing the camera location and the scope putting it in and out of focus to see if there was a poi shift. That could show some parallax error, but the correct way do do that is to put it in focus and then move your eye or camera side to side. Scopes with shallow depth of field can have significant poi shifts when out of focus, but should have none when snapped into focus. Those scopes with shallow depth of field are not really problematic, and are even preferred by FT shooters. Hunters may prefer a deep depth of field where the scope stays in focus and is parallax free. Scopes that have parallax error even when in focus are more of a problem, but you did not show that.
Reporting on parallax error from a "head bob" (or camera-bob), at various focus settings, would be much more useful when trying to determine the suitability of a scope.
If you have a variable mag scope and have it on a low mag setting and out of focus, a head-bob will often reveal parallax error. It might have a bearing on the suitability of a scope for a particular task, but it has little bearing on the scope quality.
You had done a review of the Monstrum 6-24x50. You showed it with severe "runout" in your review. I used one recently at the Sonoran Desert GP field target match. The so called "runout" was never an issue. As long as I made sure it was set for clear focus, there was no poi shift. Of the four piston shooters, I had the top score, using a scope that you had deamed to be a worthless POS.
You speak of "runout error" when adjusting the side focus. Runout error could show up when wiggling the eyepiece, or wiggling a front objective. But you were fixing the camera location and the scope putting it in and out of focus to see if there was a poi shift. That could show some parallax error, but the correct way do do that is to put it in focus and then move your eye or camera side to side. Scopes with shallow depth of field can have significant poi shifts when out of focus, but should have none when snapped into focus. Those scopes with shallow depth of field are not really problematic, and are even preferred by FT shooters. Hunters may prefer a deep depth of field where the scope stays in focus and is parallax free. Scopes that have parallax error even when in focus are more of a problem, but you did not show that.
Reporting on parallax error from a "head bob" (or camera-bob), at various focus settings, would be much more useful when trying to determine the suitability of a scope.
If you have a variable mag scope and have it on a low mag setting and out of focus, a head-bob will often reveal parallax error. It might have a bearing on the suitability of a scope for a particular task, but it has little bearing on the scope quality.
You had done a review of the Monstrum 6-24x50. You showed it with severe "runout" in your review. I used one recently at the Sonoran Desert GP field target match. The so called "runout" was never an issue. As long as I made sure it was set for clear focus, there was no poi shift. Of the four piston shooters, I had the top score, using a scope that you had deamed to be a worthless POS.
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Schotch I'm very happy you did so well with your set up ! Good deal .
As for my test , it just shows POI shifts as range is adjusted. Nothing more . I just try an give an honest opinion about thestuff I'm reviewing. If I occasionally use the improper terminology it's just because I'm a moron
My opinion is no better than anyone elses , but at least it isn't bought . I pay the same thing as everyone else when I buy scopes and guns . Really glad your scope is working out fo you .
As for my test , it just shows POI shifts as range is adjusted. Nothing more . I just try an give an honest opinion about thestuff I'm reviewing. If I occasionally use the improper terminology it's just because I'm a moron
My opinion is no better than anyone elses , but at least it isn't bought . I pay the same thing as everyone else when I buy scopes and guns . Really glad your scope is working out fo you .
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I think is a great review and honest opinion about a product, sometimes a lot of people (including me) gets carried away with brands appeal or preferences for different products based on hype or simply because lack of knowledge.
My thinking is that for the kind of use that I'll give to a particular scope, like use it in PCP for hunting at no more than 80 or 100 yards......I don't really need a ultra high end 600USD worth of money to do that job.
I think if you get to know your gun and setup you can do a lot more with it even if you have a POS kinda scope on it, any ways is a good video review for me and we have to keep the proportions of the remarks into the right perspective (I hope to make myself clear, it's just a point of view and didn't mean to offend anyone).
By te way Joe did you know there's another top tier model of the discovery scope line that has a Japanese glass on it ??
Here so you can check it out: ED Range – First Focal Plane[/QUOTE]http://discoveryoptics.co.uk/ed-range-of-30-mm-first-focal-plane/embed/#?secret=hPJqFwn7EF
All the best
Alejandro
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Joe,
Thanks for the scope review. I've watched many of your videos and appreciate the time you put into them. Any chance you might review the Discovery HD 3-18x50 FFP IR? I had been seriously considering the SWFA fixed 10, but I like the idea of an FFP scope and the Discovery scopes seem like a good value. Also, it's just fun to try something different and I haven't owned an FFP scope before.
Thanks
Thanks for the scope review. I've watched many of your videos and appreciate the time you put into them. Any chance you might review the Discovery HD 3-18x50 FFP IR? I had been seriously considering the SWFA fixed 10, but I like the idea of an FFP scope and the Discovery scopes seem like a good value. Also, it's just fun to try something different and I haven't owned an FFP scope before.
Thanks
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I'm hoping to do a review on that scope , but right now I have a Leupold 6-18 mark ar in the jig . And a Athlon FFP on the way . That Discovery is on my SHORT list after the other tested out so well !!!!!!
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