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Did you know your 12gr CO2 canisters actually have 18grs of CO2 ???

Forums Springers, Pumpers, C02, & Replicas Springers, Pumpers, C02, & Replicas – Discussion Did you know your 12gr CO2 canisters actually have 18grs of CO2 ???

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    RTR
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    I weighed up a few, empty and full (12) on each page………….. Question is…WHY is there 18grs and not 12 grs ???

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    BigTinBoat
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    I think you are converting grains to grams. it's 185 grains for 12 grams

    Looks like the one with the most is your 4th Crosman which has 197 grains so 12.8 grams

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    RTR
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    BigTinBoat

    I think you are converting grains to grams. it's 185 grains for 12 grams

    Looks like the one with the most is your 4th Crosman which has 197 grains so 12.8 grams

    The scale is set on grains

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    RTR

    BigTinBoat

    I think you are converting grains to grams. it's 185 grains for 12 grams

    Looks like the one with the most is your 4th Crosman which has 197 grains so 12.8 grams

    The scale is set on grains

    OK, so how did you do the "conversion and get 18? You have to divide grains by 15.432  to get grams

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    RTR
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    BigTinBoat

    RTR

    BigTinBoat

    I think you are converting grains to grams. it's 185 grains for 12 grams

    Looks like the one with the most is your 4th Crosman which has 197 grains so 12.8 grams

    The scale is set on grains

    OK, so how did you do the "conversion and get 18? You have to divide grains by 15.432  to get grams

    Thanks.We are trying to figure it out here    https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=post;quote=155956510;topic=172215.180

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    BigTinBoat
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    RTR

    BigTinBoat

    RTR

    BigTinBoat

    I think you are converting grains to grams. it's 185 grains for 12 grams

    Looks like the one with the most is your 4th Crosman which has 197 grains so 12.8 grams

    The scale is set on grains

    OK, so how did you do the "conversion and get 18? You have to divide grains by 15.432  to get grams

    Thanks.We are trying to figure it out here    https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=post;quote=155956510;topic=172215.180

    Sorry can't help you there, I have that forum blocked on my laptop. I found too much garbage over there

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    RTR
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    BigTinBoat

    RTR

    BigTinBoat

    RTR

    BigTinBoat

    I think you are converting grains to grams. it's 185 grains for 12 grams

    Looks like the one with the most is your 4th Crosman which has 197 grains so 12.8 grams

    The scale is set on grains

    OK, so how did you do the "conversion and get 18? You have to divide grains by 15.432  to get grams

    Thanks.We are trying to figure it out here    https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=post;quote=155956510;topic=172215.180

    Sorry can't help you there, I have that forum blocked on my laptop. I found too much garbage over there

    Thanks……… I'll take pix.of what we have found "over-there" and post em here

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    BigTinBoat
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    RTR

    BigTinBoat

    RTR

    BigTinBoat

    RTR

    BigTinBoat

    I think you are converting grains to grams. it's 185 grains for 12 grams

    Looks like the one with the most is your 4th Crosman which has 197 grains so 12.8 grams

    The scale is set on grains

    OK, so how did you do the "conversion and get 18? You have to divide grains by 15.432  to get grams

    Thanks.We are trying to figure it out here    https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=post;quote=155956510;topic=172215.180

    Sorry can't help you there, I have that forum blocked on my laptop. I found too much garbage over there

    Thanks……… I'll take pix.of what we have found "over-there" and post em here

    OK. It sounds to me like someone is thinking that 197 grains is 18 grams. It's NOT. 197 grains is 12.8 grams. Looks like a mathematical error.

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    RTR
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    Here is what we have so far,  thanks for the help….

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    BigTinBoat
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    RTR

    Here is what we have so far,  thanks for the help….

    Ok, so the guy "think" it's 18 grams, it NOT, it's 12.8 in the max one. Kinda proves what I said about why I don't go there.

    It's really easy to figure out. Do a google search for "converting grains to grams" and then put your numbers in and then tell him what you found

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    RTR
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    Thanks much,stupid me,you were right,had me thinking all night long .I was weighing and thinking in Grains…He was thinking Grams…

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    BigTinBoat
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    RTR

    Thanks much,stupid me,you were right,had me thinking all night long .I was weighing and thinking in Grains…He was thinking Grams…

    I don't think it's "stupid you".? Maybe gullible for just blindly believing. My take is you posted a picture indicating grains, he (incorrectly) converted the grains to grams and gave you that number. You then took his word for that number and starting contemplating it. You came here, asked the question, and got the correct answer.

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    Septicdeath
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    BigTinBoat

    RTR

    Here is what we have so far,  thanks for the help….

    Ok, so the guy "think" it's 18 grams, it NOT, it's 12.8 in the max one. Kinda proves what I said about why I don't go there.

    It's really easy to figure out. Do a google search for "converting grains to grams" and then put your numbers in and then tell him what you found

    Not a good reason not to go there. There are a ton of very knowledgeable people there that will help you. It is also someplace  to go that is Springer friendly. Something lacking here alot of times.

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    whyzee
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    TTIW

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    DonC
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    BigTinBoat

    RTR

    BigTinBoat

    RTR

    BigTinBoat

    I think you are converting grains to grams. it's 185 grains for 12 grams

    Looks like the one with the most is your 4th Crosman which has 197 grains so 12.8 grams

    The scale is set on grains

    OK, so how did you do the "conversion and get 18? You have to divide grains by 15.432  to get grams

    Thanks.We are trying to figure it out here    https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=post;quote=155956510;topic=172215.180

    Sorry can't help you there, I have that forum blocked on my laptop. I found too much garbage over Ithere

    Bigtinnboat,

    You have a lot to offer in forums and I'm sure you like to learn something new. I would suggest you not block any airgun forum. Just go in with the attitude "more is better". If someone posts something you don't like, just ignore it. It's a shame to sterotype the entire site because of a few posts. View the forums by their entirety and any stuff ya don't like is "water off a duck's back.".

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    BigTinBoat
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    DonC

    BigTinBoat

    RTR

    BigTinBoat

    RTR

    BigTinBoat

    I think you are converting grains to grams. it's 185 grains for 12 grams

    Looks like the one with the most is your 4th Crosman which has 197 grains so 12.8 grams

    The scale is set on grains

    OK, so how did you do the "conversion and get 18? You have to divide grains by 15.432  to get grams

    Thanks.We are trying to figure it out here    https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=post;quote=155956510;topic=172215.180

    Sorry can't help you there, I have that forum blocked on my laptop. I found too much garbage over Ithere

    Bigtinnboat,

    You have a lot to offer in forums and I'm sure you like to learn something new. I would suggest you not block any airgun forum. Just go in with the attitude "more is better". If someone posts something you don't like, just ignore it. It's a shame to sterotype the entire site because of a few posts. View the forums by their entirety and any stuff ya don't like is "water off a duck's back.".

    Don – it apparent you don't know my full history with that forum.

    I was on that forum years ago. I bought an item from one of their "Sanctioned Vendors" (sponsors but said they paid no $$) Well the item wasn't exactly as described and I proceeded to tell the truth about it. Well that vendor got a bit pissed and "went off". I was sent a PM by the owner and advised "He needs to make $$$$, your comments are not needed". I promptly began deleting some of my posts and I was banned. Would you go back?

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    ackuric
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    BigTinBoat

    DonC

    BigTinBoat

    RTR

    BigTinBoat

    RTR

    BigTinBoat

    I think you are converting grains to grams. it's 185 grains for 12 grams

    Looks like the one with the most is your 4th Crosman which has 197 grains so 12.8 grams

    The scale is set on grains

    OK, so how did you do the "conversion and get 18? You have to divide grains by 15.432  to get grams

    Thanks.We are trying to figure it out here    https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=post;quote=155956510;topic=172215.180

    Sorry can't help you there, I have that forum blocked on my laptop. I found too much garbage over Ithere

    Bigtinnboat,

    You have a lot to offer in forums and I'm sure you like to learn something new. I would suggest you not block any airgun forum. Just go in with the attitude "more is better". If someone posts something you don't like, just ignore it. It's a shame to sterotype the entire site because of a few posts. View the forums by their entirety and any stuff ya don't like is "water off a duck's back.".

    Don – it apparent you don't know my full history with that forum.

    I was on that forum years ago. I bought an item from one of their "Sanctioned Vendors" (sponsors but said they paid no $$) Well the item wasn't exactly as described and I proceeded to tell the truth about it. Well that vendor got a bit pissed and "went off". I was sent a PM by the owner and advised "He needs to make $$$$, your comments are not needed". I promptly began deleting some of my posts and I was banned. Would you go back?

     

    Hahaha, I got banned for similar reasons, wonder how many are in our club? Banned for being confrontational and standing up to my beliefs, such as arguing with Rsterne that the shot process in an airgun is adiabatic and not isothermal (which in the past Llyods spreadsheet required a mix of adiabatic/isothermal leaning isothermal to 'correct' his calculations, which lead Bob to assume the process had to be isothermal)…never taking my word and always arguing/debating with me (of course I was the bad guy then since I was a newcomer with no creds) years later a physicists joined the forums named Domingo that confirmed the process of air transferring from plenum to barrel was purely adiabatic…and spit out predictions Lloyds 'internal ballistics' spread sheet could only dream…ahh good times…nothing like being gang banged by a bunch of Bob's and/or Travis's fanboys only to find out years later you were right all along.

     

    Oh and then I later rejoined those forums under the name 'PikeP' and solved their simple balance valve problem, from root cause to executed solution, without ever holding a balanced valve in my hands…more fun times..thread is beautifully pinned. What happened to the SS valve you say, the one ol' Lloyd the engineer came up with? Failure due to its engineering, frankly it was quite poorly engineered, yet this guy gets his name slapped all over it and the 'version 2' (currently used in raptors) which was corrected using my hot fixes, gotta love it…not that I want my name on anything Travis would ever produce, heck no…I just love the irony of it all.

     

    I could go on with my stories from GTA, but my general gist is, they're mostly a small group that are VERY defensive and protective of each other even when they are clearly wrong…I got banned primarily due to this and the 'flock' or 'gang' mentality they have…

     

    -Matt

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    270windude
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    Haha. My people. Getting in fights whether airguns are adiabatic and or isothermal.  This forums becoming my favorite despite being associated with an airgun personality that I can not stand. 

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    whyzee
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    I can attest that the other place is full of a few know it all post whores. 
    I joined up once in order to help a person out who had a problem with his safety that would not reliably  set when cocking. I’m pretty sure he had the same issue that I once encountered, and explained what to look for and how to correct. 
    well I got lambasted by the regular gang, some of which reside here (including BooBoo’s pal), so I decided to not help any further. 
    upon reading the ‘gates’ I came to the conclusion that it is the same old people who only ramble in order to brag about what is in THEIR safe or closets with each and every post. 
    Much of which is so difficult to read and comprehend due to poor grammar and misspellings. 

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