Did Ted ever fulfil his quest regards eliminating flyers?

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I suppose this question is mostly directed at you Ted, unless anyone else knows the answer. 

You did the series of videos on pellet sorting and came to the conclusion that pellet head size DOES matter. Do you still sort your pellets for any of your guns? 

Im sure you said that you shoot from the tin for your FX guns, do you still get no flyers, like when you did the video on your .22? 

Also so an open question to everyone here - how often do you find that you are cleaning your smoothtwist barrels? Please indicate roughly how old the gun is and what caliber too as there are many generations of ST barrels. 

Thanks
 
Hi Ben, I can tell my experience with flyers, when I purchased a couple of extreme's in .25 cal. One for myself and one for my brother.a couple years ago. He really didn't have time to hunt so I sold his and keep mine. But when it came to shooting them side by side together at a range with JSB pellets. About every 40% of a tin, we would get a flyer. No we didn't sort either, we accepted this like in regular firearms. When you buy a box of what ever the caliber your shooting a 20% of that box in not going to go where you fired at. To me,it's just,to time consuming to measure every pellet. If your not, shooting in competitions, why bother....IMO. Most are plinking or hunting. And we cleaned our barrels about every tin of JSB (350 pellets). I would just shoot a cleaner pellet thru with a little cleaner on the pellet. And keep going. 

Now for my rifled barrels, my cricket and other pellet rifles, I clean them after a day of shooting. Again I just shoot a cleaner pellet thru it and keep going. Unless I notice something really wrong. this is how I do it with all my pellet rifles...and never had any issues to speak of.... Best Steve 
 
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Eliminate fliers? Nope - it will never happen. Because, as guns + ammo continue to improve, I simply keep "redefining" what a flier is. Five years ago, a flier was a shot that went over 1" off the mark at 50 yards. Today a flier is a shot that goes 1/2" off the mark at 50. The variables will all be the same, but the tolerances are tightening.

That said, if you recall, the gun I used for that test was my Edgun Matador (2010 LW barrel). Since making that video, I have gotten several new guns - both with smooth-twist and LW barrels; all of which seem less sensitive to pellet head diameter variability. I think the choke/cut on my 'old' Edgun Matador barrel may be a little too "aggressive". It chews up pellets pretty good. Edgun agreed with my findings, and took steps to have LW design barrels to address these issues. The barrels on later (R3) models were said to foul less and be less pellet fussy.
 
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"Ted"Eliminate fliers? Nope - it will never happen. Because, as guns + ammo continue to improve, I simply keep "redefining" what a flier is. Five years ago, a flier was a shot that went over 1" off the mark at 50 yards. Today a flier is a shot that goes 1/2" off the mark at 50. The variables will all be the same, but the tolerances are tightening.

That said, if you recall, the gun I used for that test was my Edgun Matador (2010 LW barrel). Since making that video, I have gotten several new guns - both with smooth-twist and LW barrels; all of which seem less sensitive to pellet head diameter variability. I think the choke/cut on my 'old' Edgun Matador barrel may be a little too "aggressive". It chews up pellets pretty good. Edgun agreed with my findings, and took steps to have LW design barrels to address these issues. The barrels on later (R3) models were said to foul less and be less pellet fussy.
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Thanks for responding Ted. I think you worded that very well as a response and I can understand and very much see wheat you are talking about. 

I still see the more than 0.5" flyers unfortunately (even with a new gun and ST barrel) I'm sure some of which can be attributed to me the shooter and some o the other variables though too. 

But it I do agree that as group sizes shrink our standard also get higher. I'm seeing it myself as I have got better at shooting, I demand more from myself and my equipment and will always be in the eternal struggle to find the next big accuracy leap. 

Fortunately for me, practice is making lots of difference at the moment and I am seeing average group size close up
 
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"Ted"Eliminate fliers? Nope - it will never happen. Because, as guns + ammo continue to improve, I simply keep "redefining" what a flier is. Five years ago, a flier was a shot that went over 1" off the mark at 50 yards. Today a flier is a shot that goes 1/2" off the mark at 50. The variables will all be the same, but the tolerances are tightening.

That said, if you recall, the gun I used for that test was my Edgun Matador (2010 LW barrel). Since making that video, I have gotten several new guns - both with smooth-twist and LW barrels; all of which seem less sensitive to pellet head diameter variability. I think the choke/cut on my 'old' Edgun Matador barrel may be a little too "aggressive". It chews up pellets pretty good. Edgun agreed with my findings, and took steps to have LW design barrels to address these issues. The barrels on later (R3) models were said to foul less and be less pellet fussy.

In my experience, barrels which have little or no choke are not as accurate as barrels that are choked. Admittedly the downside is that the barrels have to be cleaned more frequently.
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