Diana Stormrider .22 Video Review by AEAC

"CampFussell"
"AEAC"

That's not the one I was using in the vid buddy. The one I had has the AO on the side and is a 3-12, not 3-9.
Steve
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I'm liking that new Bug Buster Steve. Thanks for sharing.
I gave my first one away to my step daughter. It was the 3x9 and it was awesome, but the new side focus is a game changer!
Jimmy


I have the 3-9 here too... have for many years and the retical on this new to me 3-12 side AO is much thinner. This alone would be worth an upgrade but not sure if it's thinner because my 3-9 is so old (about 4 years) or it's because they've made the 3-12 better.

Steve
 
Hmmm. I have disagreed with Steve and I have not received a nastygram. Steve's corrections are always polite and sincere.

I was thinking about why so many of Steve's AEAC reviews are always glowing reports. It's because we live in an age where materials and machine practices yield really good air guns. There has never been such a great selection to choose from. Lucky us!!!

There's another possibility. Maybe Steve is one of those truly nice guys who had good parents as role models.

Again, it would be nice to hear about the experiences of someone else who has shot, or owns one of these inexpensive, light, nimble, Chinese guns...whatever name it wears in either caliber.

R, Steve in L.A.
 
At the end of the day, people see what they want to see in AEAC. 

Most come away from my vids feeling a sense of discovery, sharing, a high level of trust, and repeatable information. Those that don't care for me see agenda, bias, & deception. For this I am truly sorry as the goal is to be meaningful in everyone's world, but I also realize this isn't a realistic expectation. We're doing ok though. We've a 2017 like/dislike ratio of 96.31% to 3.69% and subs are up 110%, more than doubling from 10,000-21,000 in 12 months. I look at each of these as indicators that we're on a good path and connecting with a high level of trust within the community.

fpgt72, I am truly sorry for having scorned you so. Why you see suspect in me changing my clothes over a 2 day video shoot, agenda in swapping groups up from 5 to 10, and bias in how I play with origin of manufacturer format, I will never understand... it's just not in my moral fiber. Most all of my vids take 2 days to shoot because the morning light is so much better than afternoon and for the sake of continuity, I almost always go home home & wash my clothes right afterwords to be re-worn in day 2. Watch all my vids, and you'll see a good mix of garb. When I took the Kral Puncher Breaker, Airforce Condor, Hatsan Bullmaster, and RAW HM1000x out to 50 with 10 shot groups I remember only gratitude from my followers. On my end it's just a matter of treating my peeps when enough of them get to chirpin' at me. As for origin of manufacturer show & tell, I'm very consistent in this message. Visit me on FB and you'll find this message overlapping & clear in every pre-video photopack, and come the video I have fun swapping things around.

I don't know any way to tell ya fpgt72 other than to just tell ya. We're all on the same team brother. I've got 16 industry organizations all playing nice together and the only rule any of em' have for me is be honest, try to share repeatable information, manage expectations, and have fun. I know my review of the Gauntlet is frustrating ya, but there's a simple truth that I'm hoping you've simply overlooked. There's not another Gauntlet reviewer on the planet that was able to review that rifle within the context of having also reviewed nine sub $350 guns, nine sub $650 guns, and nine $1350+ guns... and all in the same year. Is it not reasonable to expect AEAC's perspective on where it fits in & stacks up to be wider than those with a narrower scope? I'm not picking on anybody fpgt72, that's just the reality of my world and it's my job to share within the context of my experiences. There is no bias in this circle buddy. Airgun Depot loved the Gauntlet video and Umarex USA commissioned AEAC directly for 2 more of em'. We're all having a good time.

I hope all this helps and that going forward, we can be cool. It's a pretty happy place over here man.

Best,
Steve





 
fpgt72,

Look how similar our dogs look. What's yours? 

...DNA test says ours is Chihuahua, Min pin, and Pomeranian. His name is Bandit and he turns 1 on the 29th of next month and he's the offspring of our 9 year old mutt (Arvee) who went three doors down and knocked up the neighbors mutt "Georgia". Bandit looks a lot like his mother.

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Arvee (Dad)
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Georgia (Mom)
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Steve

 
Well, perhaps...what is the StormRider concept? It is fairly unique and appealing in its relatively light wight carbine length. So many of our air gun choices are heavy. Take the Gauntlet for example. What is it, 8 1/2 pounds without a scope? So, with a scope it weighs as much as an M-1 Garand. That seems a little heavy for shooting .177 and .22 pellets.

Properly executed, the StormRider could be a "goto" gun for pesting.

Steve

 
"steveinla"Well, perhaps...what is the StormRider concept? It is fairly unique and appealing in its relatively light wight carbine length. So many of our air gun choices are heavy. Take the Gauntlet for example. What is it, 8 1/2 pounds without a scope? So, with a scope it weighs as much as an M-1 Garand. That seems a little heavy for shooting .177 and .22 pellets.
Properly executed, the StormRider could be a "goto" gun for pesting.
Steve


Well I feel like most airguns come in at around 9-10 lbs shoot ready (Gauntlet included) and while they may all weigh about the same, they don't all 'feel" the same weight in hand. Some are good at shifting weight rearward so they feel lighter, and others the opposite. In my experience super lights like the Maximus, Discovery, Chief, and Stormrider can be nice to point up into the trees at a squirrel 30' away but suffer up on the sticks or when laid on a fallen log for longer range duty. For me, they tend to wander in these situations whereas the heavier ones don't. I've even felt like a good cross wind can shift them in my hands or on the sticks at times where heavier offerings feel more planted... even when shooting freehand.

The $200 PCP segment to me is more of segway meant to move the Springer crowd off their pop-guns. In some instances they can also be a good option for youth on account of their light weight and dainty stature. Where they fall short is that they can also be challenging to shoot well and enjoy, which of course is counter productive for encouraging young shooters, and quality is hit or miss... even among batches. Finally, the tinkerer crowd loves them as "buying cheap and improving" is a big part of the airgun culture and that's all good.

The most interesting discovery for me is that some brands seem to operate (test, develope, promote) in a bubble of sorts where others do a better job of understanding the playing field, their customer, and how to be succesful in it. I find the $200-$300 PCP segment is one of the most relevant to this phenomena as it's got $260 guns outperforming $300 guns and $160 guns outperforming $200 guns. By "outperforming" I mean total perceived value but of course some of that can be subjective as different things are important to different people.

What do you think?

Steve
 
I think it's 01:00 in Florida and you should get some rack.

Relatively short range and small pests is exactly why guys like me are attracted to airguns. It seems however, that so many guys want to shoot 1000 yards with their pellet guns against their buddies model 700 bored for 6.5 Creedmore, or .416 Barret. (OK, I exagerate a little.) The point being that some people have what I consider unrealistic goals for their airguns. The fact that today's airguns will do the distance as evidenced by Tofaz4u's videos speaks to those quality materials and machine processes that I spoke of before. I am perfectly good with a light weight airgun for the close rat encounter. The Talon SS is a good lighter weight airgun, but it is only a single shot and i have been spoiled with a magazine.

Steve
 
I see where you're coming from and I'm sure a lot of people would agree with ya on an airgun being a primarily sub 25 yard selection. In my world, I'm always being thanked for the 50 & 100 yard evaluation and told they can't find it elsewhere so will stick with it where I can.

Indeed many of us do love pushing these guns out as far as we can. Myself included.

Steve
 
I see iterations of this SPA rifle and others on other forums, and it seems that a lot of shooters like to get them and tinker to get them humming they way they want. I can see that. I can see someone with some experience tuning one of these to the best of it's ability and really enjoying it. 

It's a poor choice for a new shooter or air gunner who just wants point and shoot out of box. There are better choices. 

I do like that companies continue to put pricing pressure on this lower segment. Hopefully, it will trickle up??? Well, you know what I mean. 

Thanks for the video Steve. Frankly, it's gotta stink to review a Crown one day, and then this little gem :)

Grin, bear, repeat....

Oh, btw, are you going to maybe take a look at the Benjamin Mrod's that they have in their Custom Shop with the LW barrels and regulators?? Looks like a tempting offering for the mid-tier market. 
 
I'm not for a second suggesting that you shouldn't be testing, or enjoying long range shooting with these guns. I was myself surprised that my .25 Marauder would consistently hit empty shotgun shells at 100 yards. That's impressive. My personal requirements are shorter distances...sub 25 yards. I don't enjoy a long heavy gun to shoot a tiny pellet. The StormRider is a carbine and if I get the kinks worked out of it, I have confidence that it will fulfill my original purpose.

There ya go! Now that's worth hanging around for. Crosman should have made this .22 cal. with the LW barrel years ago.;)

Do they have plans to make a .177 with a LW barrel?


 
"AEAC"As you wish Beachgunner.
You can follow along on Facebook for progress updates as I work through pre video discovery.
.22 Lothar Walther barrel and regulated. On deck at AEAC
Steve
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That's fantastic Steve. Really looking forward to that review. I'm thinking of getting a .177 version of that for target shooting, and maybe a squirrel that might have an "accident" here and there.

ATB, Michael

 
"steveinla"I'm not for a second suggesting that you shouldn't be testing, or enjoying long range shooting with these guns. I was myself surprised that my .25 Marauder would consistently hit empty shotgun shells at 100 yards. That's impressive. My personal requirements are shorter distances...sub 25 yards. I don't enjoy a long heavy gun to shoot a tiny pellet. The StormRider is a carbine and if I get the kinks worked out of it, I have confidence that it will fulfill my original purpose.
There ya go! Now that's worth hanging around for. Crosman should have made this .22 cal. with the LW barrel years ago.;)
Do they have plans to make a .177 with a LW barrel?


Yes, they do. .177 and .22 will be LW and .25 Green Mountain.