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diana model 48 in 22cal. with hawke red dot.

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    walter3rd
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    i have been having terrible luck getting my scope to stay dialed on  my diana 48 in 22cal with its huge recoil. i had quality rings and so i thought a decent scope. i gave up and installed a red dot to see if it will hold true. fingers crossed. i cant use my irons anymore as my eyes kinda suck now. i have a hw97k in 177 scoped that works a treat. anyone use red dots on powerful springers?

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    biohazardman
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    I resorted to the Diana Bullseye mount on my 45 and 52 as they ate many scopes for breakfast.  I did not have any failures after I installed the mount. So this werqed for me.

    https://www.pyramydair.com/product/bullseye-zr-1-pc-mount-fits-1-and-30mm-tubes-11mm-dovetail-0-04-droop?a=5495

    Accuracy did not suffer with this installed.

    https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/shot-some-targets-50-yards-with-the-diana-54/

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    dizzums
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    in my case red dots arnt much better than irons .. really limits my distance, im deadly out to about 15 yards lol … scopes can vary quite a bit and surprisingly 'not' by price point in how well they work with my eyes .. just depends mostly on how much allowance the manufacturer built into the eyepiece adjustment, i wouldnt beat up a nice scope on a springer myself anyway .. but yeah, either find a scope that will work with your eyes and survive the torture or maybe go to the eye place with your favorite scope and get some special glasses dialed right into that baby lol … thats a good idea actually glad you thought of it ..

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    crosman2016
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    biohazardman

    I resorted to the Diana Bullseye mount on my 45 and 52 as they ate many scopes for breakfast.  I did not have any failures after I installed the mount. So this werqed for me.

    https://www.pyramydair.com/product/bullseye-zr-1-pc-mount-fits-1-and-30mm-tubes-11mm-dovetail-0-04-droop?a=5495

    Accuracy did not suffer with this installed.

    https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/shot-some-targets-50-yards-with-the-diana-54/

    I like that mount.  Thanks for sharing the link!

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    AirShot
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    Go with a Leupold scope and your problems are over !!  Expensive YES,  but you will never need to buy another.  I have a couple that are 25 and 30 years old, never a problem, these have been on RWS model 48,  HW 80, HW97 and my TX200. They have been used for hunting and FT cimpetition. Turrets have been clicked for various distances and about everything you can think of that is hard on a scope, and they never failed.  If there is a problem, warranty work is free and returned within 10 days. Why would you want anything else???

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    Glenroiland
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    AirShot

    Go with a Leupold scope and your problems are over !!  Expensive YES,  but you will never need to buy another.  I have a couple that are 25 and 30 years old, never a problem, these have been on RWS model 48,  HW 80, HW97 and my TX200. They have been used for hunting and FT cimpetition. Turrets have been clicked for various distances and about everything you can think of that is hard on a scope, and they never failed.  If there is a problem, warranty work is free and returned within 10 days. Why would you want anything else???

    This.  I can also attest to vortex.  My d48 has had a vortex atop it for THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of rounds and still holds zero.  Plus, with the warranties on Leupold and vortex there's nothing to fear…

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    walter3rd
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    do i need to buy a high priced leopold, vortex or do there lower priced scopes 300-400 dollars still work on hard springers? thanks. 

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    Fischer
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    The 48 is used for the 54.

    It is an incredible action in sidelever. 

    That is why the 54 offers recoilless endeavor to get your groups tight.  Recoil is always a trick to "handle" in springers to ensure consistent grouping and accuracy.

    Remove the recoil and then you are free from many complications.

    Whether 48 or 54 the rifle WILL destroy scopes unless the scope is mounted in a Zero Recoil Mount and Rings fitting the scope you want.

    After the recoilless rifle D54 get the Zero Recoil Mounts to make the system capable of accuracy well beyond normal springers.

    Kindly,

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    Glenroiland
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    walter3rd

    do i need to buy a high priced leopold, vortex or do there lower priced scopes 300-400 dollars still work on hard springers? thanks. 

    My vortex Diamondback was well under $200.

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    walter3rd
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    thanks! that's what i was hoping to hear…. :)

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    Glenroiland
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    walter3rd

    thanks! that's what i was hoping to hear…. :)

    The one Diamondback I had an issue with was atop my sig asp20.  The reticle broke, but vortex replaced it with a new one no questions asked, and they said their autopsy indicated I had actually crushed the tube overtightening my mounts.  It still lasted I think over 6,000 rounds before it broke.  Ended up with a brand spanking new replacement free of charge.  The one on my diana 48 is still going strong and holding zero perfectly and tracks flawlessly (well over 6,000 rounds on that one). 

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    walter3rd
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    great to hear. vortex ordered and on its way! fingers crossed. hoping for a happy resolution. thanks for the assistance. walt 

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    Fischer
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    I have the Diamondback Vortex on my HW80 .20 Left Hand (a mistake by AOA to me but I felt the rifle was too good to send back).  Besides, the serial number is 1871953 (way old but out of the box with the older HW linkages) and it IS in a Diana Zero Recoil Mount suffering no damage or change of impact since I put it on this rifle.

    This is an HW80 Left Hand, I am Right Hand with rifles, but when I shot it I felt already bonded to it.

    A left hander wanted to see if I would trade my Left Hand model HW80 .20 with his Right Hand HW80 .20 and I actually declined.

    I already had bonded with the rifle.

    I have bonded with every air rifle in my inventory offhand for their consistency in every season and year and decade or two of owning them.

    I never altered any of these fine rifles with vortexing or customizing or tuning unless spending $1800 on a D54 .20 custom.

    I went MY way with my rifles and no rifle is a disappointment.

    These rifles all are from England (Theoben, Falcon, Daystate) or Germany (D54, HW) and no rifle produced today can match them in my specific needs for each.

    The rifles today built with quality will only go up in price while the others use less pure metals and workmanship to build a Walmart Air Rifle.

    It's my opinion at this time.

    Skilled labor and fine metal put together is rather expensive now!

    It wasn't so bad 20 years ago or more.

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    walter3rd
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    looking forward to mounting my new scope, getting back to a solid zero and hoping she holds. i really like this 48 and know she can be accurate and consistent but its no use to me if i cant get a scope to do its job as well. my 97k in 177 has a more mellow shot cycle i guess and holds zero just fine with a hawke scope. 

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    walter3rd
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    no luck! im selling this rifle! 3rd scope.. good rings… stock screws tight. ridiculous! multiple pellets. nothing will group tight at under 25 yrds! unacceptable. my 97k is a joy to shoot,this total frustration. what a waste of money…..

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    Cr4k4
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    Hmmm   I had one that was tuned by John in PA that knocked a squirrel out of a tree at 78 yards.  That was an exceptional shot and that gum liked Walmart pellets…

    Did you try H&N FTTs?

     

     

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    walter3rd
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    I had a promising group yesterday so there might be hope yet! I would love to get along with this gun as I like the simplicity of springers and at my 25 yard range it’s really all I need . I did a standing front rested 6 shit group. The first was low the rest were all touching at 25 yrds! I can live with that. I’m getting my best results from 18 grain jsbs. I tried some other 16 grain pellets with no luck and h&n we’re not grouping. I’ve got some others on the way. High end rws pellets have been good in the past too. 

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    walter3rd
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    just shot another tight group from 18 grain jsb and a decent 14 grain meisterkuglen. maybe things are turning around. fingers crossed. 

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    walter3rd

    i have been having terrible luck getting my scope to stay dialed on  my diana 48 in 22cal with its huge recoil. i had quality rings and so i thought a decent scope. i gave up and installed a red dot to see if it will hold true. fingers crossed. i cant use my irons anymore as my eyes kinda suck now. i have a hw97k in 177 scoped that works a treat. anyone use red dots on powerful springers?

    How old is your gun?? Takes at least a thousand rounds before it smooths out any. The older the smoother with springers!!

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    walter3rd
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    I am just past 1000 so maybe that’s it. :) 

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