Diana Bullseye and RWS droop MOA?

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    Totoro
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    Hey fellas, been reading thru the forum and I can't seem to find the info I need but what are the MOA slant built into the Bullseye and Lockdown mounts?

    Looking at new scopes so trying to estimate how much elevation the scope will have left to use for zeroing and dialing.

    Thanks!

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    bdzjlz
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    I use the RWS lockdown on all of my springers. I think it is 15 degrees

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    Odoyle
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    Cheaper to buy the 30mm version for half price and buy or 3d print 1 inch inserts.

    I don't think the Bullseye recoil proof mounts have any droop cpmpensation built in.

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    Totoro
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    Thanks fellas.

    I am the RWS LockDown on multiple guns and gonna try the Bullseye on a D52.

    If bd is right and the LD is 15 @ 0.025 droop then the BE is gonna be over 20MOA since it's advertised at 0.040 droop.

    Anyone else can confirm?

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    Yarddog
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    For droop issues, I use the Leapers DNT06 mount from Pyramyd Air. Its $14.96…I believe its got a bit more angle built in than the Lockdown. I keep one in stock just in case.

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    JungleShooter
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    I've had the same question of how much cant I can get from different scope mounts…. 😊 

     

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    GoldenStateAIRGUNer
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    I for one don't understand the need for a droop mount on a fixed barrel rifle. Barrel droop is prevalent on break barrel rifles where the barrel and receiver don't completely line up when the barrel is locked into the firing mode.

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    biohazardman
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     Barrel drop is prevalent on many airguns.  Neither my FX Impact PCP or my Diana 54 spring gun are break barrels but both require a drooper mount to get the scope centered correctly. 

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    biohazardman
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    Totoro

    Thanks fellas.

    I am the RWS LockDown on multiple guns and gonna try the Bullseye on a D52.

    If bd is right and the LD is 15 @ 0.025 droop then the BE is gonna be over 20MOA since it's advertised at 0.040 droop.

    Anyone else can confirm?

    I put a Bullseye on my 52 after trashing a scope or two and it has werqed very will for a thousand rounds so far.  It locked up tight and gave me no accuracy issues so I bought a second for my 54. I can confirm the droop compensation looks to be over 20 MOA but that is all I can say because I have not looked into it to find the exact amount.

    https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/shot-some-targets-50-yards-with-the-diana-54/

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    biohazardman

     Barrel drop is prevalent on many airguns.  Neither my FX Impact PCP or my Diana 54 spring gun are break barrels but both require a drooper mount to get the scope centered correctly. 

    Makes no sense!  The barrel and receiver on a side lever cocking springer are one parallel unit. The barrel and receiver on a break barrel are two separate components. If the barrel points downward and not running in a parallel line with the receiver then this is referred to as "barrel droop". I would never buy a droop mount for a fixed barrel springer without first trying the gun without one. Save your money and cross that bridge if you need to. I never needed a droop mount on either of my RWS 34 and they were both fine. 

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    Totoro
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    Many many thanks fellas!

    Droop mount may not be needed IF the scope has enough elevation to zero.

    AND after zeroing you dont plan on dialing for longer shots, maybe just using holders if your reticle allows.

    I am a dye in the wool knob cranker so not having max elevation available to me is not an option, personally speaking.

    YMMV

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    RacineJohn
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    I have the Bullseye ZR.  It is droop compensated, but I don't know the amount. 

    I took it off my rifle because it negatively affected accuracy.  It was probably okay for shorter range hunting accuracy, but not for the precision shooting that I am striving for.  30 yard groups shrunk by about 30% when I took it off.

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    RacineJohn

    I have the Bullseye ZR.  It is droop compensated, but I don't know the amount. 

    I took it off my rifle because it negatively affected accuracy.  It was probably okay for shorter range hunting accuracy, but not for the precision shooting that I am striving for.  30 yard groups shrunk by about 30% when I took it off.

    Thanks for the reply RJ, so how did the ZR mount affect group accuracy in your rifle?

    Was there play in the mount?

    Thanks!

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