Diablo Moisture Filters

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Guys be real carful with thes cheap filters I got one and I did not want to use it but my Omega turbo compressor was sitting I did not want to take a chance living in Maryland with the moisture the Diablo was sold out so I put the tuxen on for temporary till I got my Diablo it's blue up and a peace went through my drywall put a hole the size of a quarter I could not believe what I was looking at it is very thick metal well. What happened was the seal around where it's cruise together had gave away and I guess the metal was weak in that area. It's also just a piece of cotton inside it is not a quality brand or inside you really need the Beads and charcoal to really do the job.john
 
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John, 

thats interesting to hear...I have one, not used it yet, waiting till my tank needs a fill....I think i’ll Empty out the “innards” and fillit with oil then pressure test it...make some measurements and see what’s what...I know it’s gonna be a pain to clean it out, but I don’t want an explosion with it full of air...way safer with a tiny bit of air and lotsa oil..

thanks for letting us know

Mike
 
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Guys be real carful with thes cheap filters I got one and I did not want to use it but my Omega turbo compressor was sitting I did not want to take a chance living in Maryland with the moisture the Diablo was sold out so I put the tuxen on for temporary till I got my Diablo it's blue up and a peace went through my drywall put a hole the size of a quarter I could not believe what I was looking at it is very thick metal well. What happened was the seal around where it's cruise together had gave away and I guess the metal was weak in that area. It's also just a piece of cotton inside it is not a quality brand or inside you really need the Beads and charcoal to really do the job.john
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Are you referring to the big gold filter ? Can you post a picture showing the failure spot ?Do you mean the cap broke apart at the O ring groove or the threads stripped ?
 
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@jld1969, when did you move from “Navada” to Maryland? Anyway, your story is interesting. What makes you think the Diablo would be any safer? There’s about a 99.999% chance that it’s made in China by the same people that make the Tuxing or Xin Yong Shi filters (gold filter). Look at them, other than the color they are identical. Just my two cents but all these “high quality” Diablo or Alpha or whatever are more than likely brothers of the gold filters sold on eBay or AliExpress. 

A true quality filter not made in China like the ones that come with Bauer compressors are way more than two or three hundred dollars. 

Im sure we’d all appreciate photos of the exploded filter showing the failure area(s) so that we can all watch out for similar weaknesses. 

@17hornet, if you are going to hydro test your gold filter just use water. Oil is not required. When your SCBA tank gets its 5 year hydro test they use water. 
 
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Centercut. I still live in navada but I am in Maryland for the summer time am a roofing contractor and do government work in DC. But I agree they are probably all made in China. But the quality control I think is different I was in China a few months ago and some of the quality control was Day and night on USA shipping to USA stores. But when you get it from them on the web to a individual not the same quality they have seconds they kiss rejected from the factories that gets sold two individuals where the others pass inspection and go out to US stores this is truly amazing to see I seen this first hand 

i went all over China and Japan looking at how things was made and Japan is much much better quality on a variety of products and goods. But going back to what I said omaga makes one for my omaga turbo charger Compressor not to sure where it's made but I do know The cotton tubes don't work good at all the get wet fast and cause more moisture. 

I am very scared of taking any chances after what happened to me my biggest fear come true high pressure and a blow out where I blow my o ring then where the threads was where the piece blew out from not the tube itself the cap. I will post picks ASAP. Listen I am not at all saying don't get one but test it first and keep back for a few fills to see what's what. I don't think getting a cheap moisture filter is a good idea at all let's face it.

we spend all are money on Airguns and tanks but when it comes time to put air in the them we cut corners on compressors and filters that's taking a big chance on getting rust in our tanks and worse our Airguns. So I think getting a $200 to 300 filter to protect your guns and tanks is a good thing I got the best compressor and still was scared of moisture that's why I even got the gold tux one instead of the best. John
 
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Guys be real carful with thes cheap filters I got one and I did not want to use it but my Omega turbo compressor was sitting I did not want to take a chance living in Maryland with the moisture the Diablo was sold out so I put the tuxen on for temporary till I got my Diablo it's blue up and a peace went through my drywall put a hole the size of a quarter I could not believe what I was looking at it is very thick metal well. What happened was the seal around where it's cruise together had gave away and I guess the metal was weak in that area. It's also just a piece of cotton inside it is not a quality brand or inside you really need the Beads and charcoal to really do the job.john
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John, your description of the circumstances that caused the filter to fail are very vague. At what pressure did it blue up? I find it impossible to believe that a blown Oring would cause such a catastrophic failure as the one you describe. A photo is worth a thousand words. Your translator/spell checker is letting you down badly.

Sorry John, I just read your reply to centercut. It explains a lot more than your original post. I too, look forward to seeing photos of the stripped threads.
 
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Eaglebeak, +1 to you. I have had two gold filters. If I am to believe the manufacturer they are built out of 7075 aluminum which is much stronger than the more common 6061 aluminum in most products. The wall thickness is the same as most carbon fiber tanks.

Jld1969, please share photos of your filter failure. No one else has had similar experiences with them.

What bothers me is not a gold filter that is built like an Abrahms tank. It is videos on Youtube from compressor owners who dispense advice and share faulty knowledge that is scary and potentially dangerous. The fact that compressors have reached the price point that hand pumps were a few years ago introduces a larger pool of buyers who don't research and educate themselves before freely sharing their lack of knowledge. There is one lengthy video of a clueless $200 compressor owner on Youtube who shares numerous bits of incorrect compressor advice. He uses hydraulic fluid as lubricant yet warns others of oil smell, uses a BSP thread connector into his gold filter where a 10mm fitting is required, and advises that a compressor pressure shutdoff prematurely ruins a compressor, etc.
 
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Logic and common sense says that hoses and interconnect tube thicknesses are much thinner than a filter wall so a pressure failure is more probable there . ....
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That is not ture. Check out : https://www.engineersedge.com/calculators/pipe_bust_calc.htm

For a pipe, the smaller the bore, the thinner the wall thickness required to stand a given pressure. The bore of the interconnecting hoses is very small ( hence the name "micro bore hose" ) so the wall need not be very thick. 
 
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Logic and common sense says that hoses and interconnect tube thicknesses are much thinner than a filter wall so a pressure failure is more probable there . ....
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That is not ture. Check out : https://www.engineersedge.com/calculators/pipe_bust_calc.htm

For a pipe, the smaller the bore, the thinner the wall thickness required to stand a given pressure. The bore of the interconnecting hoses is very small ( hence the name "micro bore hose" ) so the wall need not be very thick.
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Good information and I stand corrected.
 
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Considering what Jld1969 said, I'll go with the diablo filter. Thanks for the info guys.

Vasyl, I'm going to get a Shoebox. Reason is that they can be worked on by a medhanical dolt like me! I don't want a compressor I have to pack up and ship when it needs service/repair. Hope to see you at the BR match on Saturday. I'll bring the front and rear rest for you. 

Chas
 
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Considering what Jld1969 said, I'll go with the diablo filter. Thanks for the info guys.

Vasyl, I'm going to get a Shoebox. Reason is that they can be worked on by a medhanical dolt like me! I don't want a compressor I have to pack up and ship when it needs service/repair. Hope to see you at the BR match on Saturday. I'll bring the front and rear rest for you. 

Chas
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I've owned two Shoeboxes, the Max and the F8. I honestly don't think you need an output filter with the low fill speed of a Shoebox. Buy a Wilkerson X06-02-000 filter which contains blue silica desiccant and mount it between your first stage compressor and your Shoebox and you will have perfectly dry air. The other problem with a Shoebox/Diablo or Gold Filter setup is that the Shoeboxes fill so slowly that the large volume inside the output filter will add another 30 minutes to the run time just to pressurize the filter housing. If you insist on an output filter (do not omit the Wilkerson or an equivalent as it takes out most of the moisture by itself) I'd recommend the smaller size black filter selling for $30 on Ebay and discussed in a previous thread on this forum by Centercut. It won't take as long to pressurize, but IMO an output filter isn't needed if you use a Wilkerson. I live in a high humidity area and had no moisture in my tanks with the Wilkerson. If you look on Youtube I made a video years ago showing this type setup. Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39zkx8tmZ_M&t=30s

For what it's worth, until there is evidence presented I am very skeptical of the failure of a Gold filter. If you buy a Diablo you are spending twice the price to get a gold filter from a private label U.S. dealer that is identical to a Gold filter in every way except the color and the price.


 
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Humdinger, since you've owned the shoebox, can you let me know what lines and hardware I'll need to hook up the shop compressor to the Wilkerson and then the Wilkerson to the shoebox. 

Thanks,

Chas
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The input and output of the Wilkerson X06-02-000 filter is female threaded in 1/4 NPT. I'd recommend the inexpensive coiled hose you saw in my video in the previous post. It is a 25' long poly hose that is 1/4" diameter. https://www.harborfreight.com/14-in-x-25-ft-coiled-polyurethane-air-hose-61980.html  The output hose on your first stage compressor should terminate in a 1/4" NPT male thread which can thread directly into the Wikerson filter. Seal the threads with white teflon tape. The coiled hose can be threaded unto a female 1/4" NPT quick disconnect fitting that shop compressor hoses use as a standard fitting. That will snap onto your male 1/4" NPT fitting that comes with your Shoebox that is also 1/4" NPT and threads into the top of the Shoebox on it's input side. Easy peasy connections. The Wilkerson includes blue silica desiccant that can be recharged after it turns pink. I could run my Shoebox for 25 hours before the beads in the Wilkerson filter turned pink in 1/3 of the filter.

The most I'd ever consider spending on the output side of the Shoebox is the black $35 filter in conjunction with the Wilkerson, but truthfully it is overkill. Shoeboxes pump air so slowly that a good input filter captures all of the moisture. Decent first stage filters like this one keep air tanks dry as a bone with no output filter. The designer and manufacturer of the Shoebox does not suggest that an output filter is needed on his website. Scare stories about excess moisture in tanks are from vendors selling expensive filtration systems. Shoeboxes were too slow filling for my requirements but they are durable and easy to service. The F10 dropped from $1150 retail down to $500 due to competitive market pressure. It is a simple, reliable, and viable compressor for guys who don't need speedy fills. Accuracy points are always appreciated if this is helpful to anyone.
 
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