Agreed. Red wolf is very consistent but not absolutely perfect across a very wide pressure range. So double regulation, first mechanical and then electronic should make for excellent consistency. Still want to know how the mechanical reg pressure is adjusted and hoping it's automatic (possibly wishful thinking) rather than fixed. Manual could be a bit of a can of worms.
It'll also get rid of the changing harmonics the red wolf needed to deal with as the fill pressure dropped. I have found that on high power at least, my red wolf standard power shows a subtle change in POI and absolute precision below about 180bar, long before any actual change in velocity. Can only assume it has to do with harmonics... Or perhaps an overthinking shooter
Macros I’m sure this is why Daystate has double regulated. Harmonics are particularly important for slugs and surely Daystate is keen to have the DW be a good slug gun. I made a post about this very point some time ago and was basically told I didn’t know what I was talking about.
https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/harmonics-and-the-redwolf/
When Tony Balis of Daystate mentioned that the constant pressure of the regulator will produce a more consistent BC I’m sure harmonics is what he is talking about. What else could that mean??
I shoot my RedWolf tethered at a regulated 190 with slugs and love to shoot it that way. Amazing consistency
Hqve often though of putting a huma and plenum between the bottle and the gun.
Don't know how I missed that thread.
I see that whole argument got derailed on the semantics of what 'harmonics' actually means rather than on the point you were making that in the absence of consistent regulator pressure, a differing volume of air at differing pressure is propelling the projectile on every shot, which is bound to cause a change in the barrel vibrations regardless whether the velocities stay similar. This can even be heard in the change in pitch of shots taken at lower and lower pressure.
I'm guessing these guns get away with it to a point thanks to their relatively stiff barrels and fast quiet shot cycles. The carbon shroud on the red wolf, although not a support probably helps dampen vibration a bit too. All this harmonics stuff (as it's referred to in a 'Ted's holdover' sense rather than a firearms one) although always a factor, seems to have really come to the fore with the STX barrels and their lack of rigidity, I think making them more sensitive to lack of harmony in a certain tune.
Anyways the double regulation can only be a good thing in the Delta. I don't really know what Tony means with his bc comments exactly (I had initially assumed it might have been a typo or some other error) but if all this somehow also affects overall bc in the absence of changing MV, there is basically a whole branch of internal ballistics affecting external ballistics I'm completely ignorant of
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