Daystate Wolverine HI-Lite .25 50 FT LB

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    bowwild
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    Thanks for the advice zx10wall!

    Yes, the Wolverine comes with the Huggett Shroud. I have some tins of the 25 Kings I will try.

    How much does one trust the gauges on these rifles?  The fill is supposed to be 230 as m asked on the rifle. I wouldn’t want to go to the max red line on the rifle gauge which is 250.  

    The RAW is one of the rifles (FX Royal 500 too) I considered before the Daystate decision.  I was thinking HM1000x in .25. However, I don’t think I would like the length and weight of that RAW.  I’ll be in TN the last weekend of February.  I’m thinking I might want to call Martin at RAW to see if I could come by and see his work.  

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    zx10wall
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    Bowwild, I believe the Daystate gauges are accurate. Fill that baby!! That whole package can take it. They’ve tested all involved to failure and they are giving a hefty safety factor when they determine and label the max fill pressure on the rifle. Don’t get me wrong, caution needs to be taken when dealing with these high pressures but you’re good man. Filling to 230 bar will be good if this is what you are comfortable with. In fact, I’m now realizing that I suggested to fill to 250 bar. Even though AOA filled to 260 bar when they ran the string of the .22 Daystate Air Wolf (high power), which can be seen on their website, it’s probably not a good idea. I’m going to edit that 250 bar suggestion is my last post and drop it to 230 bar. 

    If the RAW is too long for your taste, Martin will customize your build. That’s the beauty of RAW, you’re talking to the man who will build it for you in Martin. Sure, he can’t take too much length away from the barrel or it would adversely effect performance but he can and will customize to your needs. 

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    JWilson
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    After adding a regulator, I have filled as far as 300 BAR before going out to shoot. I am not necessarily recommending it, but the pressure seen by the action is regulated to about 150 BAR and the bottle on the HiLite is rated at 315 WP. Mine is .22 and I am at 100 shots per fill right at 30 ftlb. I have not calculated efficiency, but satisfaction is real high😉 I have been in contact with the manufacturer of the reg and am actively sharing results with him.

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    bowwild
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    I shot another string just now. I intended to charge the rifle to 250 bar. My carbon tank would only take it to 240 (I’ve charged mine and my son’s PCPs quite a few times on the first fill of this tank).  

    I forgot to program the JSB 25.39 pellet weight in the digital link (bluetooth hookup to my prochrony). And finally, my phone gave me a low battery alert at the 20th shot — I didn’t realize the AP had stopped working until I had shot another 6-7 shots that didn’t record FPS.  Sheesh, I’m so new to this I have lots of mistakes to make!

    But here’s the string I got on 19 shots before my AP stopped recording: (I deleted the first shot after filling which was 648 FPS).

    1. 900
    2. 899
    3. 905
    4. 910
    5. 907
    6.909
    7. 907
    8. 914
    9. 912
    10. 905
    11. 906
    12. 907
    13. 905
    14. 902.
    15. 904.
    16. 905
    17. 898
    18. 899

    After 8 more shots that went unrecorded the chronograph read 866. So somewhere around 20-22 shots, starting at 240 bar, this .25, 25.39 grain pellet dropped quite a bit.

    The specs on these 18 shots (I deleted that 1st shot of 648 FPS): Avg. 905, Ext. Spread 16, Standard Deviation 4

    Because I didn’t enter the pellet weight I don’t know FPE without calculating it.  I calculated FPE for High FPS of 914 – 47.11 and Low FPS 899 – 45.58

     

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    zx10wall
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    It appears to me that you need to back the power down a tad. If you could get that pellet to shoot from 870 to 905 then back to 870 would be a good bell curve. To achieve this with most guns, you would back off the hammer spring tension. I’m not familiar with the adjustment on the Wolverine. I did have an Air Ranger. With that platform you could change the spring guide size, take away spacers or add spacer to (less tension on the spring less power). You could also adjust the throw on the hammer which controls the amount of momentum it has. This style is not as straight forward to adjust but again I’m not certain of the Wolverine platform. Regardless, you have to realize that you may void the warranty if you open the action up. You mentioned you’re new to this, so it may not be a good idea to begin modding a new Daystate. 

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    Nutcracker
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    I finally figured out how to adjust the length of striker today. ( its a slot on the adjusting screw inside the hammer , not a hex head).  I decided to make the stroke of the hammer shorter. I wanted to slow it down a tad , but mostly wanted to figure out the rifle. Well I turned the striker  1 full turn. Filled to 3200 psi. 25.39 JSB
    890 894 894 893 898 899 899 898 898 899
    899 897 896 896 896 894 891 891 884 884
    887 882 879 876 870 868 868 865 860 858
    I thought the first 20 looked pretty good.
     

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    zx10wall
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    That’s looking better. I wonder if you charged to 230 bar/ 3,335 psi where the gun would begin the string. Here’s to you for learning more about your rifle. 

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    Nutcracker
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    “zx10wall”That’s looking better. I wonder if you charged to 230 bar/ 3,335 psi where the gun would begin the string. Here’s to you for learning more about your rifle. 

    I did one of those also, think it was closer 3400 psi , it is only 30 shots.
    848 853 859 860 868 872 878 881 891 894
    889 890 903 899 900 900 898 900 901 900
    898 894 895 891 889 887 888 884 878 878

    Probably what I am really after is 20 very consistent shots.  That would be two mags & more than what I would use hunting tree squirrels.  I  also would like consistent 1/2′” groups at 50 yards.  I did shoot a couple 1″ 5 shot groups @ 85 yards yesterday & a couple 3/8″ 5 shot groups @ 50 yds.   I think with more practice I can make this a good squirrel rifle.  As of now it is not quiet as consistent as my FX Royale 400 .22. ( still getting a flyer or two every mag)  However I hate to admit it, it is a more comfortable rifle for me.

    Another thing, I never had much success lubing pellets in any of the other PCP Rifles I have owned, but my groups seem to do better w/ a little lube in this Wolverine.  I used some Liquid Wrench Chain Lube,I had,   & the groups seem to get smaller & more consistent.  I need to do some more experimenting to make sure it was the lube and not just outside conditions or me.
     

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    zx10wall
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    Thank you for keeping us updated on your progress. I’ve heard Slick 50 One Lube has been used with good success for lubing pellets. I personally don’t lube pellets but it would probably keep your barrel clean longer with using lubed projectiles. I’ve had an FX 400 and can say for certain that mine was a good little rig. 

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    Nutcracker
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    I decided to got the other way.  1 3/4 turns on hammer screw from “factory setting” making a longer hammer stroke. Here is a couple strings.
    3500 psi fill (Note.  this is  higher than factory recommended  230 bar max fill) . 
    25 grain JSB
    1. 887 888 892 901 900 907 911 913 917 920 918 923 925 924 926 924 917 921 921 916 918 920 916 913 913 911 910 910 909 904 903 900 895 896 894 888 885 884 879 876.

    3500 psi
    33 grain JSB MKII
    764 776 782 789 785 792 809 807 820 833 820 831 838 826 826 841 840 839 842 842 837 834 834 835 834 834 837 833 831 826 826 828 823 821 820

    3400 psi
    33 grain JSB Kings ( had to push these in mag with a Philips head screwdriver)
    798 809 807 808 819 829 829 825 825 831 838 836 840 835 830 833 828 830 829 824 823 822 821 814 810 809 808 804
    Never tried any for accuracy, just wanting to see what moving the hammer stroke and using these heavier pellets might do. I just ordered longer barrel , am anxious to get that fitted and see what that does. Will be to long for a shroud.

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    zx10wall
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    “Nutcracker”I decided to got the other way.  1 3/4 turns on hammer screw from “factory setting” making a longer hammer stroke. Here is a couple strings.
    3500 psi fill (Note.  this is  higher than factory recommended  230 bar max fill) . 
    25 grain JSB
    1. 887 888 892 901 900 907 911 913 917 920 918 923 925 924 926 924 917 921 921 916 918 920 916 913 913 911 910 910 909 904 903 900 895 896 894 888 885 884 879 876.

    3500 psi
    33 grain JSB MKII
    764 776 782 789 785 792 809 807 820 833 820 831 838 826 826 841 840 839 842 842 837 834 834 835 834 834 837 833 831 826 826 828 823 821 820

    3400 psi
    33 grain JSB Kings ( had to push these in mag with a Philips head screwdriver)
    798 809 807 808 819 829 829 825 825 831 838 836 840 835 830 833 828 830 829 824 823 822 821 814 810 809 808 804
    Never tried any for accuracy, just wanting to see what moving the hammer stroke and using these heavier pellets might do. I just ordered longer barrel , am anxious to get that fitted and see what that does. Will be to long for a shroud.

    
Huge progress. Nice. 

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