Daystate Red Wolf HP .22 Serie Rosso Review(Even Better than Before!)

Hey guys! I haven't seen many reviews on this gun besides on youtube. I have found none on AGN and believe there should be some written reviews for every gun.

So here I am sharing my experience with the Daystate Redwolf. The gun is by far one of the most beautiful guns I have ever owned. I have always wanted to own a RAW in laminate red stock. This gun took the role of that. The electronic system is interesting and helpful at times and changing power settings with the electronics is just amazing. I think Daystate really got something right with the current generation of electronics. I'm not saying they are perfect but Daystate really is moving in an "interesting" direction with the electronic system. Someday I see great improvements to the electronic system that will be a huge gamechanger in the airgun industry. 

Let me start with some pros:

  • It is reliably accurate. Mine preferred the heavier .22s JSBs. So the airgungearshow's statement that the JSB 18.3s are the most accurate for the gun will not apply for everyone. I think under half in at 50 yards with mine shooting JSBs Monsters (nonredesigned) was the best for me. However, I am still doing testing.
  • The trigger is by far the best I have ever used, just a perfect stage one and two. It is also the lightest trigger I've owned. I have already accidentally fired it twice.
  • The stock is stunning and carbon fiber shroud is a great decision. I'd like to see this on other air rifle companies like FX
  • pressure is digitally measured
  • Daystate quality supercedes all of the manufacturers I have used.
  • you have an indicator vibration when you are out of pellets in your magazine
  • Anti-double load magazine is just phenomenal and absolutely one of the best magazine designs.
  • The most quietest air rifle I have ever owned. Much quieter than my Impact in .25 and all my wildcats.
  • Buttery smooth Action. You are not cocking back a hammer, just cycling the magazine.
  • magnetic dust cap is fun and magnetic magazine is awesome
  • MCT system actually works just as well as regulated gun!! 
  • Long Battery life(its been almost a month on one charge-no low battery notification yet)

cons:



  • The Redwolf's battery design needs some love. In fact, it uses a cheap china lipo battery found in RC cars and airsoft guns. Then the power chord is absolutely cancerous, pull too hard on the battery and you'll have to take off the stock and open the electronic systems to plug back in the power cord going to the MCT system. They really should have an integrated battery and an outside charging port area instead of removing the battery to charge every time.
  • removing the shroud to put it in the case is also a huge hassle. You will need to remove the entire stock to put on the shroud where the grub screws for the shroud are on the bottom. 
  • You need to remove the battery to remove the stock which is a hassle. 
  • The case is generic besides the SE and red case. No cut foam to fit the gun perfectly like the impact. Really disappointing considering the price point.
  • Very expensive module to tune the gun.
  • You need to buy an adapter to convert UK's standard 220V to 110V USA. I had to splice some wires.
  • cleaning the barrel with patchworm requires you to remove orings or risk damaging your breach->barrel oring.

Neutral Fact:

  • The stock is extremely fragile. Wood on wood contact with my wall mount caused delamination or indenting of the laminate. It just soaks up scratches. However, this is what you are paying for. Just an important point that not a lot of people expect.
  • Its extremely long and heavy. Probably the longest rifle i've ever owned. This can not necessarily be a con since you should expect this kind of weight with this style.
  • I have not tried using straws but I've had to remove the shroud and stock just to clean the barrel with patchworm.
  • they are asking for 400$ for the programming module!!!!! 

So in conclusion,

This gun is not for everyone. I like it and it has a place. However, the design is just not for me. I think Daystate is on the right track with electronic controlled air rifles. However, it is still very rudimentary in my opinion. The efficacy of the Mapped Compensated Technology is questionable compared to just having a regulator. Daystate implementing a regulator on the Daystate R further makes me question this. Right now im at a 50/50 on whether i should keep the gun or sell it. Hope my review will be a benefit to those interested in purchasing it. 

Here is a slideshow to show my joy and problems from this rifle.

https://imgur.com/a/HBiZ0Iv
 
I have the UK 12FT Rosso, been shooting it a fair while indoors at my club. Took it to the outdoor club for the first time last weekend and absolutely loved it!

I was considering buying the non LTD laminate in HP version and putting it on my license, my one worry was the overly long barrel and you have confirmed what a pain it is likely to be so many thanks for that info.

I agree on the magazine, best I have ever used, although I am told it's not very robust, mIne will never see hard used so I am not concerned.

I use the Napier pull through and have not had an issue. Many issues with the stock cracking at the wrist you are right, a few dealers had them turn up like that here.
 
I have the .22HP grey on red laminate, some of the cons I too thought about and have since worked out.

The case - Well for the price point I'm just plain let down with any new Daystate case. They are too small and just plain suck, so glad i didn't have to get one with this HP version and be let down again. 

Cleaning - use a straw and i have not had any issues with patch worm at all. 

The battery - IMO everyone is bashing but no real facts have come up yet. Any fires? Anyone getting low shot count? So it's a cheap lipo, does it work? Yes. Does it give me several tins of pellets without recharge? Yes. 

Charger - Mine didn't come with an adapter for USA plugs so I ordered one off amazon for 5 bucks. This I blame on the dealer more than anyone, I could have done some splicing but no need. 

The map compensating - Has been around for a long time and proven. Facts - it gives very little ES, large shot count and works. 

Length - Agree the gun is long but if you did your homework that shouldn't be a surprise. I knew what I was getting and no it's not a BP but still manageable. 

I think every gun can be improved upon and I hope every company keeps looking at innovative ways to do so. Fukochan has some very valid points in his review. Very nice rifle and I thoroughly enjoy shooting mine. 


 
Thank you for the information. I did read elsewhere on this site that Daystate has spare Rosso stocks available for registered owners of these rifles. Perhaps purchasing, and having one one hand, would allow one to enjoy this rifle more. I also think Daystate could make money selling a composite stock as a drop in for field use that could be used with this rifle.




 
Thank you for the information. I did read elsewhere on this site that Daystate has spare Rosso stocks available for registered owners of these rifles. Perhaps purchasing, and having one one hand, would allow one to enjoy this rifle more. I also think Daystate could make money selling a composite stock as a drop in for field use that could be used with this rifle.




That would be awesome and I would buy it in a heartbeat and shoot the gun all day if this were the case. However, aren't those only obtainable if the current stock breaks and forwarded via warranty?



Or better yet, put my name up for a synthetic stock. 
 
Hey everyone! I finally got the redesigned monster pellets in and single shot loader. Now the Daystate is shooting much better than before with them. I went from .5 inch groups to .2-.3 inch groups. Now it is my most accurate gun I own hahah! I also made a graph for my FPS to share with you guys. Should be helpful for debunking the Regulator vs. electronically regulated debate. I shot this down to 111 Bar from 200 and got 90 shots! Literally used about .9 bar per shot and was ridiculously consistent despite falling down below 130. Once I hit 130 bar the electronic display showed, "low pressure." I didn't want to shoot below 110 bar because of possible damage but even down in the 120s->115s it was shooting very close to 200 bar speeds. In fact, I believe these electronically regulated guns are even more consistent than regulated guns if we look on a whole spectrum from 230->130 bar. With a regulated gun I would have fallen below regulator pressure at that point. So there is some good pros to owning a MCT system. I was wrong about this gun and might decide to keep it. I feel I gave up on the gun too quickly. It is just amazing with the new pellets and single shot loader. 



https://imgur.com/a/4tyjNQx

Here are the groups! Was rainy+windy on the .40 inch groups. The first picture bottom pellet shot is actually me trying to shoot another group. 

https://imgur.com/a/UfaEoiE
 
I fly RC planes, and have not any issue with “cheap” Chinese batteries. The thing is, you have to monitor the charger. There are much better chargers out there that balance the cells. There are tons of YT videos showing battery fires. I have yet to have an issue. If you want top notch batteries, made in the USA, look up Hangtime Hobbies. They can build you anything you want. But, you need to educate yourselves on the different type of batteries. I use Hangtime Hobbies batteries in all my planes, and have had NO issues. Been using them for years.


 
You have heard me say this before! (all joking aside!) really do believe this is the platform (electro-mechanical) of the future of super efficient & consistant airguns especially for competition in certain discipline’s, accuracy is also dependent on this, but barrels play a BIG part in this aspect of competition guns also... at this point for the type of competitive discipline I enjoy I’m not sold Daystate is up to this level? Others (MANUFACTURERS) I’m sure are watching closely or testing this currently? Lots of R&D... most will say don’t fix what isn’t broke...
 
You have heard me say this before! (all joking aside!) really do believe this is the platform (electro-mechanical) of the future of super efficient & consistant airguns especially for competition in certain discipline’s, accuracy is also dependent on this, but barrels play a BIG part in this aspect of competition guns also... at this point for the type of competitive discipline I enjoy I’m not sold Daystate is up to this level? Others (MANUFACTURERS) I’m sure are watching closely or testing this currently? Lots of R&D... most will say don’t fix what isn’t broke...

Oh yeah it has a quality lothar walther polygonal barrel. Lately, it hasnt won any high rankings in benchrest competitions but im sure we might see some in the next year or so.
 
Having said what I said in last post, I believe Daystate would consider BR competition (in it’s true form!) to specialized, but other Manufacturers that have truly dedicated BR platforms RAW, THOMAS, just to name a couple, might want to investigate this for leading edge performance? but I’m sure at a higher level of quality, robustness, tunability, and ease of barrel changes etc. than Daystate currently offers! My opinion only of course...