Daystate Red Wolf Safari Review

Hi I am interested

1.if you want to tune say to ammo , there is no hst adjuster , is their some sort of rheostat to fine tune power or do you need the tuner like in redwolf where you change parameters for dwell on solenoids and say voltages

2 it says good for hunting , here we get heavy rains and weather is gun good if it gets wet ? if electronics get wet and fail , is it still warrantied ?

3. is it a 20moa pic rail or what ????????????????

LOU


 


Thank you! Just so you know, I did a search on AofA the other day and again just now. On your website, when I click on rifles, and then pcp, and then Daystate, the Safari does not show up. That's why I asked. Thank you for the link, I appreciate it.

Another great video as usual Jared. You do a heck of a job reviewing all of the new rifles that come through the shop. I really enjoy watching them. Thanks.

One more question to be 100% clear; the gun comes with the ART barrel in .22 and .25 but not .303? And, the additional $400 option is for a special tune for more power and accuracy? What's the power and accuracy difference with or without the ART tune? It's a real bummer that the .303 cal. doesn't come with an ART barrel. Although, these guns are powerful as advertised, they're still not as powerful as my Impact with $200 worth of power upgrades and the charge of $400 to maximize it's capabilities seems like kind of a rip off. Why wouldn't Daystate maximize the gun from the factory? People spending $3000 on a brand new gun won't want to spend $400 more to maximize it's potential, that should be done at the factory for a brand new gun. I realize that has nothing to do with AofA but reading this information on your website just totally turned me off and I was really excited about this gun. I'm sure I won't be the only one discouraged by this $400 marketing ploy. That's really too bad. If Daystate wants to capture some of FX's market share, this isn't the way to do it. Although I'm bummed about the .303 not having an ART barrel and Daystate NOT maximizing the gun's tune at the factory, I realize that has nothing to do with AofA and I appreciate your help and the link to the gun on your website.

Have a great weekend and thanks again for the help! Stoti



LOU ----> Here are the answers to your questions buddy,

Now for bigger game. A bold challenge by Daystate that the new Red Wolf Safari high performance air rifle meets with ease. The new Daystate Safari GC2 power plant provides a massive power upgrade and faster speed of the action's cycling rate. Each Safari has three individual power settings that can be selected by the shooter in seconds to satisfy any target or hunting requirements. The Red Wolf Safari's LCD screen displays the state of air pressure in tenths of a bar, shot count, total shots fired, magazine counter and more. The heart of the water proof computer controlled system is the electronic MCT. This firing valve takes pressure readings from the carbon fiber air supply and relays to the system the air pulse required in order to give the maximum shots per fill for tight shot-to-shot consistency and bench rest winning accuracy.

The new Daystate A.R.T. barrel on each of the Safari rifles has been developed and tested to provide the best long range accuracy from an air rifle. This new barrel technology is the result of hundreds of hours in testing many different design specifications such as choke, spin rate, profile, lead in, ballistic coefficients etc. The large capacity battery powering the unit is conveniently stored in the grip for easy access and provides thousands of shots before a recharge is required from the included charger. There is no finer trigger on a sporting air rifle than the fully tune-able match unit on the Red Wolf Safari. The trigger can be set to break on a breath or set for sporting applications as needed. The action of the Red Wolf Safari features a left or right hand reversible, super glide side lever that requires almost no effort. The action is fast and positive and the new GC2 (or gun control unit) can provide the power required for speed competitions or a lighting fast follow up shot in the field. The Red Wolf Safari has a 10-shot magazine or can be used with the included single shot tray. The carbon fiber shroud system reduces muzzle report with minimal weight and adds to the impressive appearance of the air rifle. Each Red Wolf Safari is nestled into a unique Italian produced stock. This beautiful stock has a patented finish applied that is extremely rugged. The weather resistant process requires hours of hand labor resulting in a non slip surface that is durable and elegant. The stock has been crafted with a thumb up or around position and fine stippling on the grip areas. A soft touch adjustable cheek piece and three way adjustable butt pad complete the Safaris attention to detail. A five year transferable warranty comes standard. The Daystate Safari represents the absolute pinnacle in air gun accuracy, technology, performance and quality!


 
"Why wouldn't Daystate maximize the gun from the factory? People spending $3000 on a brand new gun won't want to spend $400 more to maximize it's potential, that should be done at the factory for a brand new gun. I realize that has nothing to do with AofA but reading this information on your website just totally turned me off and I was really excited about this gun. I'm sure I won't be the only one discouraged by this $400 marketing ploy. That's really too bad. If Daystate wants to capture some of FX's market share, this isn't the way to do it. Although I'm bummed about the .303 not having an ART barrel and Daystate NOT maximizing the gun's tune at the factory"



Respectfully Stoti, this post makes me a little frustrated!

look at it from Daystates point of view, they have to produce a gun that covers all the bases as far as accuraccy, shot count, consistency etc. etc. I have watched them do this at the factory and I can assure you it's no easy task to get it right, this is bourne out in the number of people that buy the programmer and then muck the gun up as they dont know what they are doing, no different to someone badly tuning a mechanical gun.

If a person wants their gun to perform at a certain velocity with a certain pellet at a certain range this could be called a "custom" tune, you could in theory ask your dealer to request this from the factory, you also could buy the programmer and if you have the time and the patience and a good chronograph you could try and do it yourself, or you could pay an expert to do it and be reassured that they know what they are doing, i.e the AOA tuning service.

Whilst your AOA requested tune may be exactly what you as an individual wants, it may not be exactly what the next customer wants!

There is no inferrence by AOA that you are getting a less accurate or lesser performing gun if you chose not to pay the extra $400- it's just that you are getting a gun that is set up to please the vast majority of customers, as I can assure you it will!

Daystate set the gun up to "maximise it's performance to suit the majority of customers expectations" may be the best way to explain it, does that make sense?

As far as the .303 or .30 caliber Redwolf I can tell you the barrels now being fitted to the guns are spectacularly good, doesn't matter what you call them, anyone who buys one defintely won't be dissapointed!



 
Hi! All, I have been the owner of a Daystate Red wolf in .177 for Field Target shooting sense the middle of last summer and I will be receiving my .30 cal. Safari this week to be used for 100 yard bench rest shooting. I must say I really like everything about these rifles even though the electronics do worry me as far as reliability goes, time will tell if they can stand the test of time as I shoot almost two tins if pellets per week from the .177 but that being said I have two friends that have had theirs for almost two years with no failures yet and they both shoot more than I do !! My only real complaint is that Daystate has designed and built the most infinity adjustable air rifles in existence but the tuner box they say you can get to do it with has been unavailable for almost a year!! I've been told they are having a different vendor build them and they are not finished yet and that they don't know when they will be available again!!! That to me is PURE B.S.!!!! I have a friend with a full time air gun shop who has been waiting for one for use at his shop sense late last year!! I for one am not sending my rifles across the country to be "CUSTOM Tuned" when I should be able to buy the tuner that they claim they have to do it with in their marketing,and advertisement videos. 

That being said I guess I must be the "DUMB One" !! I have the second one on the way with no way to tune it either !! Rant Over!! What do you guy's think? J.L.
 
The Daystate programmer was originally marketed as a datalogger for smart meters according to my research and the name of the UK company on the box mine came in, the company went bust and a new supplier had to be found as far as I am aware. I honestly don't think it's some dastardly attempt to deprive the American public of their right to own a programmer!
 
I didn't mean to frustrate anyone, I'm the one feeling frustrated. I was really excited about this gun in .30 cal. I can do without the ART barrel as long as it's extremely accurate, and the power is as advertised. The extra $400 is a big bummer though. If I buy the gun and don't have it maximized, I'll always wonder what if, or think what it might have been? If a gun is marketed as a powerhouse with the ART barrel, which the Safari is, then it makes sense to me that most people would be buying it because of the power, ART barrel and accuracy, not the shot count and the consistency should be a given. So, set it up that way from the factory and call it good. Don't charge people another $400 to "maximize it". Doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense to me for a gun with a $3000 price tag. I didn't know the programmers aren't available either, that's not ideal. I get what you're saying and I'm sorry if I upset you, I didn't mean to frustrate anyone. I was venting because I wanted to buy this gun and now am not going to. I do understand your point of view, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Believe me, I'm bummed!

Stoti
 
Stoti, I would not hesitate to buy this gun because of this thread!!! This is a WONDERFUL rifle the way it comes out of the box!!!!! It's just that like Spray1Mark says if you want the very last bit of accuracy for the pellet or slug you have chosen to shoot "ANY" rifle needs tweaking to obtain it!! I'm just bummed out that the controller isn't available to us to do it!!

My .177 Red Wolf is the best shooting and easiest to shoot rifle I have ever owned and I have had a number of high end guns including a Steyr that was tuned by A.Z. that was an incredible rifle!! I'm just the kind of person that likes to play around with different things and I can't really do that until the controller is once again available!! Until then I will continue to shoot tiny groups with my stock Red wolf and Safari I'm certain!! Didn't mean to rain on your parade I'm just disappointed that's all!! I'm getting another one this weekend so I can't be too concerned!! J.L.
 
I didn't mean to frustrate anyone, I'm the one feeling frustrated. I was really excited about this gun in .30 cal. I can do without the ART barrel as long as it's extremely accurate, and the power is as advertised. The extra $400 is a big bummer though. If I buy the gun and don't have it maximized, I'll always wonder what if, or think what it might have been? If a gun is marketed as a powerhouse with the ART barrel, which the Safari is, then it makes sense to me that most people would be buying it because of the power, ART barrel and accuracy, not the shot count and the consistency should be a given. So, set it up that way from the factory and call it good. Don't charge people another $400 to "maximize it". Doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense to me for a gun with a $3000 price tag. I didn't know the programmers aren't available either, that's not ideal. I get what you're saying and I'm sorry if I upset you, I didn't mean to frustrate anyone. I was venting because I wanted to buy this gun and now am not going to. I do understand your point of view, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Believe me, I'm bummed!

Stoti


No problem, I am frustrated because it seems you think you may be dissapointed, you wont, I presume you could always return the gun for tuning if at some point you felt the gun needed tweeking to suit your particular needs as WF says.