Daystate MCT versus Regulated

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FukoChan

FukoChan

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Some people may think that Daystate's MCT system is not as good as a normal regulated gun but I will give data proving otherwise. This is on my Red Wolf(rosso) .22 HP and how it shoots compared to a regulated gun I own. I picked the FX Impact as the regulated gun. Data is on velocity and shotcount relative to pressure. Both guns were shot from 200 bar->110 bar. I can squeeze more shots out of both guns filling them to 230-250bar. The findings were shocking. With regulated guns, once you fall off the regulator (150-135 bar) the fps drops considerably. You can see this with my FX Impact. However, with Daystates MCT system, it has provided with 30 fps extreme spread through the ranges of 200bar all the way down to 130 bar. In comparison, the Impact is around the same with the dropoff point around 150 bar. 

Basically TLDR: Daystate MCT system is just as consistent as regulated:



Here is my excel sheet.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1W6c-ZgmeWrViPMUIEwKOq6tIHR-qjwa8/view?usp=sharing
 
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While not a perfect apples to apples comparison (different weight pellets & some difference in fpe), the strings posted above from my Huntsman Regal XL HR & MK4is fit well with your findings. The MK4 is certainly more air efficient- more shots per fill (& at higher fpe) despite a disadvantage in both cylinder size (144cc vs 162cc) & cylinder pressure (230BAR vs 250BAR). That said, the Huntsman is no slouch.
 
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Can't speak for all mechanically regulated guns, but for mine I would agree- no logic in shooting below the reg. Doesn't show in the string posted above since I cut off the chaff at the end, but it was a harsh & sudden drop off when the Huntsman fell off the reg. The MK4 wasn't quite as dramatic, but still pretty easy to tell when Elvis had left the building. Sounds different, feels different, POI changes.

Don't know if it pertains to this discussion, but in the interest of transparency- the MK4 is using a heliboard in place of the factory board.

Thinking out loud... I like that Daystate has eggs in both baskets, hope it stays that way. Also like that they went with tried & true Huma for mechanical regulation, rather than reinventing the wheel.

That said, I hope folks don't buy the HR version of the Huntsman expecting a massive upgrade from the unregulated version... it's pretty darn good without the Huma. Here's a string from my .177 unregulated Huntsman for example:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Qgjz3pbuahvBhAtckW38wO_ydUXy7lvOJBV7k_0xitg
 
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Yeah, there are actual advantages of using the electronic systems over the regulated. Like the magazine counter for example or live feed of air pressure in the cylinder. The battery lasts a ridiculous amount of time. I've owned the gun for more than a month and have not needed to charge it yet. Once i do need to charge it though, I guess its not so bad having to pop it out of the stock real quick. Also, the electronic system handles the hammer for you so when you're cocking the gun, you are only backing the probe and cycling the magazine instead of pulling the hammer back in other PCPs. I think there will be a real possibility of Daystate building a Semi-auto platform off of its electronic systems.
 
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Good points about the counter, live feed & easier cycling.

Got the regged Huntsman & MK4 within weeks of each other, & intended to sell one of them once I found a favorite. The MK4 would probably get the nod due to ergonomics working better for me & more efficient air consumption, but now leaning towards keeping them both.

Curious... do most of Daystate's electronic guns require stock removal for battery charging? My MK4 doesn't, but it was bought used so it might have been modified when the heliboard was installed.
 
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Great information on the systems, thanks for putting in the work. I think one of the guns to look out for when they get around to is will be the Regulated Renegade. It already has the electronic trigger, add a mechanical regulator, to a very nice LW barreled, Compact, Lever gun and you will have checked off a lot of boxes for folk that don't really care for the fully Electronic system. 
 
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