Cutting the sound from my Ataman BP-17

That big "can" sticking out of the stock is a two chamber hollow can.

I now know how to make the BP-17..."louder"..! Didn't effect the accuracy at all.

In my effort to quiet it some, backfired and actually got louder. I have two ideas, one a modification of what's in there now, or a completely different design. Not sure which way I'll go for my next step. I'm thinking the "modification" idea first.

May post some pictures after I get it more, indoor friendly.



Mike
 
Yea, My first try at softening the crack from my BP-17, actually made it louder..! My second try was a modification of the first try. Not much change, still louder than original.

So I went a whole different direction.

The new "chamber" dividers are made up from RC car spur gears, a near perfect fit. The first chamber actually expands as the pressure enters the chamber (note the pen springs)...or at least that was my idea / hope..! There is now a total of five small chambers from the original two. The section on the right screws into the tube and clamps to the barrel. The section sticking out of the left end of the tube, screws in until it hits the all-thread from the expanding section on the right. Then the front end wall (far left) screws in until it hits the three other pieces of all-thread. The white pieces are just silicone tube that act as spacers.

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I don't know if it because there is more semi-connected (gear teeth openings) chambers, maybe the expanding chamber actually works...a bit of both. But the overall sound is down, by about a third, at least by my ears, (listening from the same location for each test). But the big thing, the "crack" is all but gone. The sound is now more of a soft thud, rather than a medium crack like it had. I have no real way of checking the sound (db level), but my two cats, maybe five feet away, don't even look up any more..! One thing, the center holes are just large enough for a .22 to go thru without touching. Well, my alignments were "close"...but the last gear (on the left end as shown) got clipped by a pellet...and the hole is now a little larger...and no longer round..!

All in all, about $20 for everything, about two hours of work, and it pretty much does what I'd hoped it would.

Mike

P.s. - No change in accuracy or impact location at the target, and that's obviously a good thing. Even the pellet that clipped the last gear, wasn't off by too much.
 
That's certainly a unique design. And it looks like the mount is unusual? It's hard to contain or muffle the blast of a high-power pcp. I've got 5 moderators, a couple I've designed. But the one that works best is 30mm across, 14" long, has 7 baffles, and some mesh cages and felt in 3 of the 7 chambers. It's also aluminum... known for dampening vibrations. One thing is for sure. The more you can contain and restrict expanding gasses (volume, tight tolerances) and disrupt soundwaves (felt), The quieter it will be. 
 
Long_gun -

That's why I gave the expanding chamber a try. As many things do...it came to me while sitting on the throne, recalling some testing I had done at work (Aerospace) a while back. I have three different sets of springs to try. The ones shown are short, but soft. I have two others that are longer, but also stiffer. And without some sort of pressure transducer, I have no real way of knowing the "actual" pressure behind the pellet. You can guess, from the pressure, at the breach, but that's not the same as what psi will enter the first chamber of the can.

This seems to have worked well enough, I may not even try the other two springs. I will take it apart after some amount of shooting to see if there has been anything ugly going on, or anything that needs any rework.



aldea6 -

Yep...but not interested. That is after all why I bought a short Bullpup...keep it short..!

Beside, it's not a "moderator"..!



Mike