FX Impact: Custom made "Delrin bumper" a DIY Guide.

Funshine

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So after many unsuccessful inquiries, I decided to make my own. 

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and what you'll need:

Delrin rod

1/8" drill bit

Junior (6") hacksaw or similar. I used a 32 teeth blade that I bought from Lowes.

Sand paper and Flat file ( I forgot to put it in picture)

Small round file (optional) but very convenient. You can buy a whole set from Harbor Freight or Northern Tools.

Caliper

Drill

Now, Clamp the Rod in a very stable vice or something like a JawHorse ( I used this).

With steady hands drill a hole, well centered, using the 1/8" bit. Don't go larger or the hole will be too big as you will use the file to smooth it out. Drill about 1" or more into the rod.

With rod still clamped, adjust it so you can cut off some sections to make your washers (bumpers). I made a few with varying thickness of 1.4mm to 1.6mm. Make your cuts a little thicker than you need because you'll need to sand it to the correct thickness.

Use your flat file and sandpaper to get things nice and finished to your specification. Use the caliper to confirm the thickness.

Note: On my Impact X, the Rod's thickness was 3.13mm in diameter, so you do not want to use a larger drill bit than I/8".

On the photo you'll notice some of my finished bumpers along with the original greenish color stretched O-ring that came off the gun, and the 2 others from 2 different suppliers.

I do hope that this was helpful to some of you. Good luck

Funshine


 
First off, great work. Those spacers look well made and perfect for the job! I thought about doing that myself but really felt like I didn't have the time or desire to get it done. I was just feeling like I didn't want to deal with it!

I am so sorry I didn't see your original inquiry about the Delrin C-3 spacers. I too was looking for them a while back and couldn't find any with the correct dimensions. Heavy and Edosan helped answer my questions about the correct dimensions and exactly what I needed but I couldn't find them anywhere. Then one day, I got an e-mail from Amazon, where I had been looking previously. The e-mail was notifying me of a new product...an 800 piece Delrin washer assortment. It was only $8 or thereabout, so I bought them to see if any of the washers would fit.

There are some washers that are a little smaller in diameter than the original o-ring and they're a little thinner. There are some that are a little thicker, some wider too. The thinner spacers that I decided to use are something like 7mm x 1.2mm. I was worried about fit and them breaking but this material is strong, really strong. They don't have to be a perfect, exact fit to do their job and work properly either. I gave my son the challenge of seeing if he could break one of the washers with a hammer while it was sitting on my anvil. He hit it harder and harder and after 500 hits, he was worn out but the spacer was not. There were no ill effects at all, it was barely even compressed. I've since shot my gun with it many times before I sprung a leak and I had to send it to FX, nothing to do with the bumper though! The thinner 1.2mm helps add a little power over both the standard C3 Delrin and C3 O-rings too. Anyway, I've thought of supergluing 2 of the spacers together for more thickness and durability but I think the superglue would separate before the bumper will break and I like all the added power I can get with the thinner washer! 

Anyway, although they are not an "exact" fit which may bother some people, they do fit well enough, are very durable and they are cheap If you wanted to make your own spacers that are the "exact" dimensions as recommended by FX, you can always use some of these to start with and sand them to the correct dimensions. It would make the job much faster and easier. Like I said, they only cost $8. I was going to offer to send them out to people that need these and although it won't cost much money, I'm sure quite a few people will want them and it will turn into a hassle going to the post office over and over, and, they are only $8 after all! $8 for 800 washers is a smokin' deal, more than you'll ever need and they do come in handy for around the house. I hope this helps those of you that are still looking!

Wait, I just thought of a great idea that might work and will make those interested quite happy.... Hopefully anyway!

What I could do is this...JP003, I see you want some of these spacers or have been looking for them anyway. I could send you a bunch of each of the 3-4 sizes that would work, some smaller, some larger, black, clear, thick, thin, etc... My job would be done after I send them off to you. When they arrive, you take what you want and send the rest to the next person you hear from that wants some, so on and so on! That way, each person only has to go to the post office one time and pay for shipping one time but everybody interested can get their hands on some of the washers to either use or sand to fit and use for no cost other than the shipping. Just a thought. If you want me to send you some, just let me know and give me your address. I'll get a good assortment in a padded envelope ready to go and can get them in the mail today. 

Have a good one! Stoti

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Just noticed some of my guitar picks are made of Delrin and are available in various thicknesses, which are specified on the pick. Just happen to have a 1.14 mm Dunlop that might be a good source to cut a bumper from, hmmm. So did FXusa stop supplying the Delrin C3 bumpers? What about the titanium valve seats-- was thinking about calling them for a larger diameter valve seat for the Impact...
 
From some research online:

Delrin is a much better choice than Nylon indeed a much better choice than anything for threading.

Nylon and other plastics like UHMW polyethylene are a bit flexible and do not cut nice threads because they tend to run away from the tool. They are also nowhere near as strong as Delrin. It is possible to get glass filled nylon but cutting threads in that is a lost cause I think.

Delrin is probably the strongest non reinforced plastic available (at an acceptable cost). It machines very much like brass; you need zero top rake and a good shapr edge. Coolant is not essential but it can improve the surface finish and certainly helps with drilling and tapping. Speed and feed should be around the same as brass, although in some cases you can go like crazy if you are using flood coolant on production parts.

One minor disadvantage with Delrin threads is that it has a low coefficient of friction and threaded parts can come lose due to vibration, especially with large coarse threads. The low friction can also be a nuisance because Delrin parts will pull out of vises and chucks under the cutting load.

Overall Delrin is a dream to machine.

Acetal or Delrin – Does it Really Matter Which One You Use?

While these two polymers share many similar characteristics, there are definite and significant differences that can dictate your choice of material.

Acetal is the common name for a family of thermoplastics with the chemical name "PolyOxyMethylene", or POM. Acetal is available in two general types of resins: Copolymer acetal (POM-C), and homopolymer acetal (POM-H); commonly called Delrin®. Consequently, both are acetal polymers, but each type of acetal has its own set of advantages and disadvantages.

Acetal Copolymer Considered

The copolymer grade offers excellent performance, but at a slightly lower cost than Delrin®. Acetal copolymer offers consistent properties throughout the shape since it is free of centerline porosity. Its low stress levels and high strength will assure flatness and dimensional stability up to a maximum continuous service temperature of 80°C (180°F).

Copolymer acetal (POM-C)grades are also FDA, USDA, NSF, and 3-A Dairy compliant, which means it is great for food compatible uses. In addition, acetal copolymers are available in a wide variety of colors.

Acetal Homopolymer or Delrin®

Delrin® acetal homopolymer (POM-H) offers slightly higher mechanical properties than acetal copolymer, but can often contain a low density center – also known as "center line porosity” – especially in large cross-sections. Delrin® also gives slightly less chemical resistance than copolymer acetal. However, Delrin® is ideal for applications such as small diameter, thin walled bushings that would benefit from the additional strength and rigidity of homopolymer acetal.

How they compare

Some advantages of copolymer acetal over homopolymer acetal (Delrin®) are:

  • Better dimensional stability due to its lower level of crystallinity
  • Better resistance to hot water and strong caustics, or high pH (basic) solutions
  • Lower coefficient of friction and better impact and wear properties, especially in wet or moist environments

Some advantages of homopolymer acetal (Delrin®) over copolymer acetal are:

  • Greater stiffness, with higher flexural modulus at room and elevated temperature applications
  • Slightly higher tensile and impact strength at room temperatures
  • Slightly harder, thus giving the homopolymer acetals a lower coefficient of friction



What it all means for you

The fact is that in most applications, Delrin® and acetal copolymer can be interchanged because many material properties are within approximately 10% of each other. The most significant property difference between Delrin® and copolymer acetal relates to what is commonly known as centerline porosity – an inherent characteristic of Delrin®.

Centerline porosity is most prominent in thick slab and large diameter rod stock. It can be seen quite easily around the center portion of a rod, which extends down the entire length. In sheet stock, porosity shows up as a line along the center of each cut edge. With some stock, the slab may even look as if it is laminated or glued together.

The cause of the porosity is shrinkage. During the extrusion process, the outside of the shape cools before the interior. As the interior material cools, there is a corresponding reduction of volume. Since the volume change of the shape is restricted due to the solidified skin, voids form to compensate for the loss of interior volume.

Excessive centerline porosity is undesirable for the following reasons:

  • Aesthetic -inconsistent color appearance in finished parts.
  • Compromises structural integrity.
  • Presents potential routes for leakage of gas and liquids.
  • Provides areas where the bacteria can grow in food processing applications.

A last word

Other considerations are that Delrin® has 18% better tensile strength, is 16% more rigid, 12% harder, and 8% better in terms of operating temperatures. Acetal is food compatible whereas Delrin® is not. Acetal is also resistant to the cleaning agents used in food industries.

They are both incredibly difficult to bond and are both very “slippery” plastics. However, they are both easy to machine, have very low moisture absorption, and give a very nice machined surface finish. Acetal is approximately 29% cheaper than Delrin® and has a slightly greater range of sizes available.



 
Just noticed some of my guitar picks are made of Delrin and are available in various thicknesses, which are specified on the pick. Just happen to have a 1.14 mm Dunlop that might be a good source to cut a bumper from, hmmm. So did FXusa stop supplying the Delrin C3 bumpers? What about the titanium valve seats-- was thinking about calling them for a larger diameter valve seat for the Impact...


They still sell both but the prices are ridiculous. $43 for the tiny valve seat. They should give a delrin bumper to any Impact owner who orders something.

You'll gain more by porting the brass inlet and pellet probe. Unless they will sell you a valve seat over 6mm don't bother.
 
Thanks James, just found another source for Delrin/acetal washers at seastrom-mfg.com . They will sell quantity 10 of the 0.312" by 0.062" thick with a 0.15" center hole for $1.15 each (minimum ten). This translates to 8mm OD by 1.5 mm thick. Is this about right for that C3 bumper? Will place an order today if that is the right size...


Follow this link where you'll find another link to Derin rod for $4. https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/fx-impact-c3-bumper-and-mk2-questions/#post-504927 You can make them pretty fast.
 
One would think that the Delrin C3 bumper would have become a standard part on new Impacts? has it already? No company wants warranty failures...

I hope so but I don't know. You have to have a big youtube channel or be a successful brenchrest shooter to get the latest information and special parts from FX. I'm not in the click. 😕