Crows at 55 yards

Stone02 · Jan 9, 2016

I am having some difficulty shooting crows at 55 yards with 30 ft-lb at the muzzle, 16 grain JSB round head pellets.

Frequently I am seeing a couple of feathers as the pellet strikes then the crow flies off, apparently unharmed.

Any suggestions ?

Alan · Jan 9, 2016

My first question would be, how well does it group at 55 yards? It would also be nice to know what kind of airgun is it, and what type of sights are you using?

sharroff · Jan 9, 2016

I'm assuming the crow is up in a tree. Are you compensating for the fact the pellet isn't dropping the same as it is when you shoot at something on the ground?

Stone02 · Jan 9, 2016

"Alan"My first question would be, how well does it group at 55 yards? It would also be nice to know what kind of airgun is it, and what type of sights are you using?

About 0.4" ctc 5 shot group.

Pulsar, Hawke Frontier 8-32x50

Stone02 · Jan 9, 2016

"sharroff"I'm assuming the crow is up in a tree. Are you compensating for the fact the pellet isn't dropping the same as it is when you shoot at something on the ground?

Yes, tree shooting.

Yes, compensating for inclined trajectory.

Pellet strike evidenced by feathers.

Frontal body shots are less successful than back shots.

sharroff · Jan 9, 2016

This may sound silly, but at 20-32x I can briefly see my pellets trajectory and impact point between 30 and 50 yards (my typical shots). Can you see your fired pellet?

I'd be aiming head / neck so it's a clean miss or a clean take down. Here is an idea of where things are at:

http://blenderartists.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=225890&d=1364841666

Stone02 · Jan 9, 2016

Rarely can I see the pellet in flight. Some times better than others; sun angle/pellet reflection ?

Thanks for the schematic. I do not see anything skeletal that could stop the pellet. So, maybe it is the feathers ? I don`t know.

Generally I take body, centre of mass, shots as I find it difficult to estimate windage deflection from light, but gusting, cross winds.

Nappyman · Jan 9, 2016

Body shots on good size crows require lots of luck for a take down or have a gun pushing heavy hard hitting lead! Heck, my 77fpe bobcat has been deflected off the upper wings. Now with any of my guns I go for head shot/ neck shot/ or aim just below midway body .25-9mm or belly with the .30 making sure pelts flights at impact is busting its way towards the heart/lung area. From the back midway centered .25-9mm aiming for spine with trajectory bisecting heart lung area. .30-9mm rear neck shot aiming for spine.
With .22 I only take head shots only, the big crows I incounter will laugh at my mrod. With crows for me it's all about delivering the most energy I can. They are tuff birds and I approach them with Extreme prejudice !

Stone02 · Jan 10, 2016

"Nappyman"Body shots on good size crows require lots of luck for a take down or have a gun pushing heavy hard hitting lead! Heck, my 77fpe bobcat has been deflected off the upper wings. Now with any of my guns I go for head shot/ neck shot/ or aim just below midway body .25-9mm or belly with the .30 making sure pelts flights at impact is busting its way towards the heart/lung area. From the back midway centered .25-9mm aiming for spine with trajectory bisecting heart lung area. .30-9mm rear neck shot aiming for spine.
With .22 I only take head shots only, the big crows I incounter will laugh at my mrod. With crows for me it's all about delivering the most energy I can. They are tuff birds and I approach them with Extreme prejudice !

Thanks. That's what I needed. ☺

Keith2324 · Jan 14, 2016

Also keep this in mind. If you change your magnification, this can also change your POI. For example, shooting with one of my .22's set up at a 30 yard zero and an FPS of 887, at 60 yards the mildot is 1.7 @ 12X.......mildot is 2.3 @ 24X.......mildot is 3.5 @ 24X. All this is moot if you are using an FFP scope as I understand it.

Keith.

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