Bought a Crossman f4 nitro piston about a week ago and already had to buy a new scope cause the one that came with it would not adjust left or right. So far it's still shooting .5 inch low at 35 yards ran out of elevation so I have to shim it. Seems to be a pretty well rounded rifle hold a pretty tight group right now. What would be a good pellet for small game hunting I have been using Crossman Premier hollow points looking for some opinions.
Crossman f4
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I think you will find the CPUM or LUM77 10.5 grain pellets may do well in that gun. I had a Crosman Fire/F4 and it did best with those. Never had any luck with the CPHP 7.9 pellets.
Actually, I gave the Fire/F4 away because it was so hard to shoot accurately and accuracy is everything.
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Even the Crosman 10.5 Piranhas did better for me in that gun than the CPHP 7.9s. Not good, but better than the CPHPs.
YMMV
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Here is a cheap option if you want to stick with springers and this is not a NP springer. Not sure how long the price will hold.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Winchester-177-Caliber-Pellet-Spring-Piston-Break-Barrel-1100S-Air-Rifle/802585340
https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/34-shipped/#post-1137869
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=152549.0
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/winchester-1100ss-air-rifle?m=3128
Never have owned one of these, but at this price... (grin)
I switched to PCP and haven't looked back. (smile)
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I sort of feel bad for steering you to that buy, as I have no experience with that gun. However, it does have open sights, so it might be a good backup gun if nothing else. And at that price it is hard to pass up, although I did.
As I said, I switched from springers to PCPs a
To each their own and I sincerely hope you find the 1100s to be worth WAY more than the purchase price! (grin)
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Don't feel bad never know how you will like something if you don't try it if I had seen it at Walmart today I would've bought it anyways lol so I would've ended up with it somehow another. I've been looking at some PCP guns what are some good beginner guns
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Hunter,
At the start of this year was considering changing the smoothbore barrel to a rifled one on my old Crosman 760 Pumpmaster. After crunching the numbers, decided the F4 was a better plan. Replaced cheap scope with a Centerpoint 3-9x from eBay, the seller had never used, just came on a gun he'd rescoped. Bought H&N Sampler (Six) Pellet pack on Amazon. From best to worst, these are the results: 1.Baracuda Hunter Extreme, 2.Hornet, 3. Field Target Trophy, 4. Field Target Trophy Green, 5. Crow Magnum. 6. Baracuda Power (Copper.) F4 didn't like the last three, at all, but loves that Baracuda Hunter Extreme (9.57 grain.) Hope that helps.
WM
At the start of this year was considering changing the smoothbore barrel to a rifled one on my old Crosman 760 Pumpmaster. After crunching the numbers, decided the F4 was a better plan. Replaced cheap scope with a Centerpoint 3-9x from eBay, the seller had never used, just came on a gun he'd rescoped. Bought H&N Sampler (Six) Pellet pack on Amazon. From best to worst, these are the results: 1.Baracuda Hunter Extreme, 2.Hornet, 3. Field Target Trophy, 4. Field Target Trophy Green, 5. Crow Magnum. 6. Baracuda Power (Copper.) F4 didn't like the last three, at all, but loves that Baracuda Hunter Extreme (9.57 grain.) Hope that helps.
WM
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To be honest, I can't make a recommendation. It depends on the intended use and so many other things that are subjective. All I do is pest in my backyard, so I don't need a lot of power. I have 3 (not working) Nova Freedoms (two in .177 and one in .22). I liked the fact that they had the pump built in, until the pumps failed then the poppets failed. Up until that (and these were known problems I mostly ignored when I purchased them) they were tack drivers! Well the .177s were. (I could never get the .22 to work well, but that is another story...) I also liked the ability to switch from ~20fpe to ~13fpe with the simple turn of a knob on the .177s.
When those all experienced the said problems (I may turn them into bottle guns one day) I got a really good deal on a Benjamin Fortitude Gen2 in .177 @~$234 shipped. That deal is no longer available and I don't know that I would recommend the Fortitude for most people, especially now that Crosman has raised the price. It has it warts, but I have "fixed" the problems enough for me.
I also have a .177 DAR Gen2, but it shoots with more power than I want/need and I haven't yet voided my warranty by tearing into it to adjust the regulator so I can bring the FPE down to ~12fpe or less.
There is a reason why they call getting into PCPs "the rabbit hole" or "the dark side". (smile)
Shoot what you have for a while and do a LOT of research before you make your next airgun purchase. Decide what you really want/need one for and then you MAY be able to determine which one is best for you.
Believe me, I got just about the same type of answers when I first started and the advice still holds true.
For me, I need a very quiet, ~12fpe or less, accurate (from 10 to 40 yards for the most part), easy to shoot .177 for pesting in my backyard in a residential area.
So far, the Fortitude is filling that need. If I can reduce the power of the DAR, it should also do the job nicely, if it is accurate at the lower power.
Hope that helps... (smile)
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Oops, I forgot to mention that price is definitely an object for me as well. I don't have the funds that some folks seem to have.
I still don't own a compressor, but I do have 2 Chinese hand pumps that work very well for what I do.
Oh, and one other thing... buy a decent scope. Cheap scopes will always keep you guessing. It is not uncommon for people to spend at least as much on the scope as they did on the gun and more times than not the glass costs multiples of the cost of the gun. Yes, there is a reason for that. Trust me.
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Just shoot it and get a chronograph if you don't already have one. You will need it to know what your airgun is doing even if you never make any modifications.
This is what I use, but you can probably find the same thing cheaper elsewhere:
https://www.amazon.com/Shooting-Precision-Ballistic-Chronograph-Chargeable/dp/B08K2Q9FJC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3PAZ2R7IGWNEJ&keywords=muzzle+speed+meter&sprefix=muzzle+speed%2Caps%2C370&sr=8-1
Although I didn't buy it from the link above, I have had ZERO problems using mine and it is accurate, easy to use and doesn't need external lighting. You can shoot in the dark and it will still work. The only caveat is that it only measures in meters per second, so you have to multiply the readings by 3.28084
No big deal for me. You WILL need a chronograph if you are serious about accuracy and this one does the job well for airguns.
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Hunter,
One thing I did modify on my F4 was the trigger action. I watched several YouTube videos on the subject and then ordered a Traxxas 5114 5x8x II Bearing MR85-2RS (2-pack) from Amazon. The trigger action was much improved by this modification and my ability to shoot it more accurately increased. If you like your trigger or aren't that mechanically-inclined, I'd give the trigger mod a pass, trigger actions are nothing to take lightly.
I'd further suggest checking into the "Artillery Hold" style of handling a springer. I was having trouble with accuracy until I started using this method. Of course, a good barrel cleaning for a new gun is a good idea, just to make sure any corrosion prevention compounds, used by manufacturer, are removed.
WM
One thing I did modify on my F4 was the trigger action. I watched several YouTube videos on the subject and then ordered a Traxxas 5114 5x8x II Bearing MR85-2RS (2-pack) from Amazon. The trigger action was much improved by this modification and my ability to shoot it more accurately increased. If you like your trigger or aren't that mechanically-inclined, I'd give the trigger mod a pass, trigger actions are nothing to take lightly.
I'd further suggest checking into the "Artillery Hold" style of handling a springer. I was having trouble with accuracy until I started using this method. Of course, a good barrel cleaning for a new gun is a good idea, just to make sure any corrosion prevention compounds, used by manufacturer, are removed.
WM
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