Crosman will NOT be releasing a new Mrod with a regulator inside

Guess we will have to buy our own regulators and not be able to turn them on and off !!

How strange.

it did sound too good to be true I guess. I must have jinxed it by starting a thread on how great I thought it was...

Perhaps they plan on releasing a new air gun model instead and didn't want to detract from a launch with an upgraded version of the old model. Or maybe it didn't do well in testing. I did wonder how they planned to make a regulator that could be turned on an off with a switch while keeping it reliable and cheap. 

Or.... maybe they are planning to support existing Marauder owners instead by releasing an aftermarket reg like Hatsan did for the AT44. That would be the noble approach.

or maybe someone in Crossman said something like "why are we bothering to market a whole new model when any Marauder owner who cares about a reg can already buy an aftermarket one from multiple manufacturers". 

Or maybe their market research told them that there was less enthusiasm from potential customers about a Marauder with a price tag closer to $700 than $500. 

Either way, I think it's a shame. 

That really is too bad. I wonder why they would hype it up and start taking pre-orders and then cancel?

They are leaving money on the table by not selling an mrod with the same upgrades straight from the factory that people are paying the aftermarket for now. 

All just speculation however the most likely scenario I can think of would fall under engineering/design/safety and not a marketing decision...

I bet they figured it won't sell @ $600, with the Maximus at ~$150, Marauder at $500, Kral at $500, etc.

I bet they're working on making it adjustable power for $600, to make it more valuable. Adjustable power, regulated and with a bullpup option at a favorable price and high quality is what's needed in this market.

Is the Armada regulated? 

"MOSINMARINE"Is the Armada regulated?

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No. None of the Crosmans are.

"Smaug"I bet they figured it won't sell @ $600, with the Maximus at ~$150, Marauder at $500, Kral at $500, etc.

I bet they're working on making it adjustable power for $600, to make it more valuable. Adjustable power, regulated and with a bullpup option at a favorable price and high quality is what's needed in this market.

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THIS !!!!!
I couldn't agree more.
I would buy that TODAY if available.
I posted the same thing on another forum and got trolled hard by the Crosman leg humpers.
And, YES, I've called Crosman multiple times to give my positive feedback on this.

Crosman is unwilling, or unable, to compete with Hatsan and FX.
As an American, it's disappointing. 
I just got rid of my PROD and Armada for a new Bullboss, and very happy that I did. 

Not to mention, if I wanted a long and heavy regulated gun, the Umarex Gauntlet can be had for $300.

I think it was a wise marketing decision on their part. The competition has come out with better features and (perceived?) quality at a lower price point.

I agree with what has been said. However, the Marauder series is still the leader in the "universal platform" contest, as more after-market parts are available for it, than any other current model. 

If you market a new feature, tout it to the press at major trade shows, and THEN pull it, there was clearly a problem. Marketing/product managers got ahead of engineering. Frankly, embarrassing and shows a continued lack of leadership and direction at Crosman. 

Don't get me wrong. I want nothing but success for this iconic American brand. They have become a case study in lost opportunity, however. How long can they survive in the middle of the pack with companies from Europe bringing in very competitive offerings that are feature rich at a lower price point than the Marauder?

It happens, used to be somewhat a common thing at the show, years back. There company their call.
What I see as a shame is the fact crosman had a good regulator design in 2008 ( before really) and was used in the discovery & marauder prototypes - I checked out the discovery, had the marauder trigger group also- but for some reason at the LAST minute dropped the reg & trigger pack from the discovery. All tooled up and ................ .
Had they gone with a low cost regulated rig 10 years ago THAT would have sold.

I'm thinking the Arrow launcher has a threaded air tube w/reg between tube & block ( never seen one so...) they certainly can build a regulator it just seems they cant deside what to do wit it, or, timing?

The shot show is to make yoy drool and get feed back, not all of the thing always come to market. And personally I like my $300.00 marauder with a $100 after market reg.


Shoot on,

John

Any talk of them releasing a 30 cal Marauder ?

Kind of sad they couldn't come out with anything this yr except a crap wildfire that is basically a toy in the eyes of pcp guys.

What they could do is drop the price of the mrod to $400 any cal. ...
Just a idea so they can hang with kral,Gamo urban,umarex gaunlet

Couldn't agree more Mike !
​Bad year for them and they are quickly falling behind the flood of new pcps hitting the market.

I still have a MRod 25 with just a WAR Hammer debounce (break shoe style) and if I remember I shot 24 shots with a less than -5% standard deviation. My chairgun memory has it at 840fps which is the average and shot lights out at 100yds using 25gr pellets. To me, the bell curve wasn't steep for 24 shots to justify a regulator. But that's the hunter in me saying that. Maybe that's why they opted not to install a regulator in their 25cal. 

Point is, I hope the new MRods has a huge WOW factor to replace existing MRods in the field. Especially those already modified.