Crosman 760 from 1977 has issues

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wgregt

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Hey all. Just joined up to ask a question about my Crosman 760 Pumpmaster. Built in 1977, the number tells me. I bought it new, and it worked like a champ for decades. Just dug it out of storage, and when I pumped it 8-10x, the BB would not leave the pickup magnet. I just figured right away it needed a rubber cup etc so I bought to rebuild kit. New cup, 3 new o-rings, and new valve. Swapped everything out, and....no change really. SOMETIMES it will work correctly (only with 8-10 pumps) and it will hit a target, though not with much impact, it sounds like. But then, sometimes 8-10 pumps won't move the BB off the pickup again: just like before the rebuild. Sometimes it moves the BB, and I it's gone when I check, but....when I tilt the barrel up, the BB rolls back to the magnet: not enough oomph to actually leave the barrel. It's still inconsistent. Almost like the parts swap did...nothing. And...shouldn't I be able to shoot (although weakly) with...2-8 pumps? Right now, that's not the case.

Thoughts, other than "send it to a pro"? I called and they want more than it's worth, frankly.
 
If you got a new valve, it must not be a good one. Either the inlet check leaks, exhaust or both. Might pull it down again and check for possible dirt and examine any un-replaced sealing surfaces. Is this the self cocker with brass bolt or the manual cock one?
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It's the manual cock one with the brass lever and the squared-off hand pump. It's near solid metal except for the plastic woodgrain stock. I've seen the newer all plastic ones: I'd like to re-animate this one if possible.
 
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Ok, I see there is a manual cock one with a brass bolt handle for '77-'80. I still believe that you have a leak in the valve assembly. That is where I would go on that gun, especially if you pump it fast and discharge it fast, it works. Both of mine ('67 and '73) will hold a couple of pumps for a couple days. I haven't gone longer than that, it is not the way they are supposed to be stored, unlike a Benjamin, or so I have read. I would also consider a replacement or used valve to rebuild and try again. I have a spare valve for mine for that purpose.
 
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Still stumped. Pulled it back down again, back together, still air escaping, and pulled it down again.

I opened the brass valve again, checked all the 0-rings, cleaned everything in alcohol inside and out, put the valve back together, and hooked up a compressor (with a rubber tip on the hose) and put it on the end of the valve. Wide open on the compressor got me...not a peep of air from the valve. All silent. Flipped the valve over and slid the hose over the end of the exit valve rod, slid it up to the valve and....silence. Not a peep of air at all. Hmmm.......
 
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Well, I'm at a point where I need to try something else. The idea of using a drill to pull/grind a "seal" into the Delrin didn't work. The drill won't cut a "seal" into the Delrin: it's too hard of a surface. Barely scratches it. I did fine-sand the top of the metal seal edge that meets that Delrin stem. I could see that I made a difference in it, but, when re-assembled, nothing changed: still getting tons of air out of the barrel.


The O-rings on the brass valve are perfect, new, not nicked, and lubed. The cup is new and lubed. The Delrin valve is new.

The only thing left to try is possibly a new, old stock brass valve. Not sure what a new one would add, but I'm out of ideas. You?
 
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Put a new valve in it just now, and...no leaking from the barrel end! Have not shot it yet (no indoor range), but just pumping it and pulling the trigger sure sounds and feels like old times! Not sure what was wrong with the old valve, but if yours is giving you trouble, just start by buying the complete valve and cup, and not the valve rebuild kit. You'll save $ and time in the long run. Wish I had done it that way.

I did notice that when you pump it 10X ( I think 10 is the max, right?), it doesn't get progressively harder to pump. Seems like I remember that happening when I got this in my teens. Could be remembering it wrong though...

I DO recall pumping it a LOT more than 10x as a kid though. Like 50 or more, thinking "more pumps= more power". That probably contributed to the valve failing I bet.
 
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