Cricket Bullpup .25 POI shift, Help please

Not likely to be because of a free floating barrel. My Cricket has a full free floating barrel and doesn’t behave like that. There are many other guns that hve a free floating barrel and don’t do that. 

Have you measured speeds during shooting string?

Yes it's very consistent. Extreme spread is of around 11 fps.

Cricket bullpup is not free floating barrel and is causing right and left shift.

Royal has free floating barrel and does not shift.


 
The behaviour during complete strings is still unacceptable .

POI starts to shift right to left and left to right.

Okay that is the key point. It is a pressure-induced shift. The POI is moving as the pressure in the reservoir changes, and the problem will persist as long as the barrel is coupled to the air tube.

Does it have an in-tube regulator? If so, you can couple the barrel to the regulated portion of the cylinder but you’ll have to isolate it from the high pressure reservoir.

Most (all?) of the Cricket bullpups have two bands. I don’t know the relationship of them to the location of the regulator but you may be able to keep the rear one and drill out the front one to create a small air gap and alleviate the POI shift without negatively affecting the robustness of the barrel (i.e. ability to bump it and not worry about losing your zero).
 
Not likely to be because of a free floating barrel. My Cricket has a full free floating barrel and doesn’t behave like that. There are many other guns that hve a free floating barrel and don’t do that. 

Have you measured speeds during shooting string?

Yes it's very consistent. Extreme spread is of around 11 fps.

Cricket bullpup is not free floating barrel and is causing right and left shift.

Royal has free floating barrel and does not shift.


Gotcha, I misunderstood. I may see my dealer next week. Gonna ask and see what he thinks. Will get back to you. 
 
Not likely to be because of a free floating barrel. My Cricket has a full free floating barrel and doesn’t behave like that. There are many other guns that hve a free floating barrel and don’t do that. 

Have you measured speeds during shooting string?

Yes it's very consistent. Extreme spread is of around 11 fps.

Cricket bullpup is not free floating barrel and is causing right and left shift.

Royal has free floating barrel and does not shift.


Gotcha, I misunderstood. I may see my dealer next week. Gonna ask and see what he thinks. Will get back to you.

Thank you sir
 
I'm guessing the POI shifts relate to a combination of physics and environmental factors; various materials used in every part of the rifle reacting to temperature and humidity variables. You could drive yourself NUTS trying to pinpoint the issue; or do like I do and expect to dial in a few clicks of scope adjustment every session... leaving you free to drive yourself nuts pondering easier questions like, "What makes women tick?" 
 
If a gun shot exactly the same from day to day under any and all variables, there would be no need for windage adjustments on scopes. No need for sighters in benchrest competition. There is no such thing as set it and forget it. No gun shoots exactly the same from day to day. It could be dead on all day tomorrow and with very little change in the variables, it could be off the very next day. Comparing one gun to the other gun is useless. That induces different affects. Different stock configuration, different pressure on the stock due to your hold, different recoil from one gun to another. One recoils straight back, the other recoils slightly differently because the stocks are not the same geometry. The list goes on and on.

Bullpups: They are top heavy. They tilt from side to side very easily. It's not unusual to see lateral stringing. They are ok off a bench or sandbags but not nearly as good as a gun designed for bechrest. The Royal is much better suited for this , which is probably what you're seeing.

The real test for an accurate gun is not micro adjustments to hit dead center on target. But rather if the projectiles are going hole for hole. Or close to it, At the same point of aim.

Something to think about.

T.A.
 
If a gun shot exactly the same from day to day under any and all variables, there would be no need for windage adjustments on scopes. No need for sighters in benchrest competition. There is no such thing as set it and forget it. No gun shoots exactly the same from day to day. It could be dead on all day tomorrow and with very little change in the variables, it could be off the very next day. Comparing one gun to the other gun is useless. That induces different affects. Different stock configuration, different pressure on the stock due to your hold, different recoil from one gun to another. One recoils straight back, the other recoils slightly differently because the stocks are not the same geometry. The list goes on and on.

Bullpups: They are top heavy. They tilt from side to side very easily. It's not unusual to see lateral stringing. They are ok off a bench or sandbags but not nearly as good as a gun designed for bechrest. The Royal is much better suited for this , which is probably what you're seeing.

The real test for an accurate gun is not micro adjustments to hit dead center on target. But rather if the projectiles are going hole for hole. Or close to it, At the same point of aim.

Something to think about.

T.A.

Very nice points raised.

Thank you sir.