cricket bull pup vs. carabine accuracy

I have owned both in .25. Still own the carbine, because I found out that I just do not like the bullpup platform. Sold the bp to a friend, whom I compete against with the carbine that I now use. Sometimes he wins and sometimes I do. The bp had been power tuned by Charlie and is probably a little more guilt edge accurate than my carbine. I say it that way because both guns are really accurate. My carbine was not power tuned and shoots MK II's at about 850fps, using nitrogen (great setup). Power tuned bp's shoot 890-920fps. In order to power tune a carbine, the air tube is generally replaced with the shorter .22 caliber air tube, to allow room for the larger plenum. Therefore, I decided to accept the factory velocity, which is sufficient. For me the carbine in .25 is perfect. Good luck with your decision.

Kayaker, Sorry for the delayed response. We shoot air rifle silhouette: chickens at 60 yards, pigs at 75, turkeys at 90, and rams at 100. All of these critters are very small for distances engaged. I have shot ten in a row on chickens more than once, and ten in a row on pigs once. High score for me is 31/40 (which was high enough to win that particular match). The lack of success indicated on turkeys and rams is a direct result of wind issues. Note however, that I consistently score higher on rams at 100 yards than on turkeys at 90, typically 6-8/10 (Hate those narrow turkeys.) When practicing at home, under good conditions, 100 yard targets are not a problem.

The heavy .22 caliber guns (25 grain) may get popular as time goes on. However, right now, I think the .25 caliber shooting 33.9 grain JSB's is hard to beat. Hope this info helps.

Hey Darrell

I don't have both. Only have the .25 BP. I do have the Mini Carbine in .22 (fine gun btw) The first thing I would say is, do make the time and call Charlie, he is very easy going and will not preasure you or steer you wrong. Will probably take you the same or less time than posting here, although I think it best to do both frankly. It is an expensive investment and good research is not a bad thing. 

I would agree with the above statement. The Power tunned BP will probably edge out in power (duh) and accuracy further downrange. But, you must be OK with the platform. From what I hear and know first hand they are pretty easy to work on if you have a little know how, time, and tools. I just take mine in directly to Charlie. 

The .25 BP from what I understand, lends itself much better to Power Tuning due to the length of the barrel and the length of the shroud. It may be possible with the Carbine, but it is not as straight forward. Power Tuning requires adding a plennum that effectively lentgthens the air tube and you will need the space up front to be able to pull the collar beyond the moderator. The length of the barrel is also important, as it allows for the full potential of the extra air being released, otherwise it's just wasted air because the pellet would have exited the barrel and there would still be air that is pushing out, for nothing (hope this makes sense) 

I too did not care for the BP and much preffer the Mini Carbine platform. But I bought one on a whim and I must admit to liking it more than I thought I would. The other thing is, this bad boy hits HARD!

Anyway, hope this helps a bit. Call Charlie. 

I have the carbine in .22 and .25 calibers. Both excellent guns. The .25 outperforms the .22 at longer distances. There’s no need (for me) to tune anything. Only adjust the trigger to your liking and the pellet speed for accuracy.

With the .22 I had the best results using the JSB 18’s at 880-890 fps.

The .25 is laser accurate with the 34’s at 830-840 fps. It can go all the way up to 880-890 fps but there is no improvement in accuracy and the gun becomes hard to control (for me). This when the regulator settled to about 120 bar.

It seems to me that 830-840 fps is the magic speed for the 34’s because I also have the best results at this speed with my FX ELITE with an ST barrel.

The barrel of the .25 bp is 600 mm and .25 carbine’s is 615 mm. The difference is air tube capacity where bp’s is 350 cc and carbine’s 280 cc. These from the official site.

And a photo just to tease you…



Hope this helps

 

Darell, don’t discount the .22 though. The Mini Carbine is a sweet little shooter. Check out the post below. It’s my favorite gun so far.



https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/cricket-mini-at-111-yards/