Hunter taking a large deer at 70 meters with a body shot with a 25 cal Cricket in windy conditions. This guy knows exactly where to put the pellet for a heart shot.
controversial but you can't argue with results
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It did work. Personally ( and I dont hunt large game with airguns , cant do that locally) I would have preferred to close in 20 yards and take a head shot. Just me but I always take head shots which are most often harder to get ( have to watch angles of bone & such & avoid them) but they drop on the spot.
Does look like a clean kill.
John
Does look like a clean kill.
John
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Firearms are very controlled in Mexico - makes a little more sense that he is shooting an air gun to harvest game in view of that limitation. Still, a .25 is pretty "ify" to get the job done at 70 meters.
All the same - incredible shoot!
All the same - incredible shoot!
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That's how it's done. That's how I do it. That's how anybody can do it. Patience and a carefully placed .25 cal pellet in the heart does it swiftly and cleanly. And just like this example, many deer don't even realize they've been hit. Not even any sign of pain. They just slowly and quietly drift into unconsciousness and drop peacefully to the ground as if to go to sleep. What could be more humane! But the truth doesn't sell more and bigger and more expensive airguns. False guilt will empty your brain and your pockets. No thanks! I'll keep my brain AND my money AND my conscience AND have the deer too......without guilt. No controversy here, my friend.
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Great shooting!!! BTW folks..You do not do head shots on trophy deer.!! Fantastic shooting with a .25 air rifle John. Keep up the good work!!
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Very impressive shooting!! Do you guys think the deer would've been hard to find if it did run, due to a small blood trail?
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I'm sure most of the bleeding was internal but it look like a lot of open fields so maybe he could see where it ran. But I kind of get the idea this was not his first rodeo and he knew exactly where to place the pellet.
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I get the exact same idea. Looks like this isn’t the first time he’s done this.
When it comes to hunting, there is no substitute for experience. Especially when using a relatively small projectile like a .25.
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Totally ethical kill IMO, definitely worth a thumbs up for that guy feeding his family wild game.
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next people will be trying to put vids on here of using so called 30 and 50 grain for large elk and or moose.
the 25 cal air gun was and never is meant for big game. its just not.
my heart would break if a cripple happened and or one would run off.
the 25 cal air gun was and never is meant for big game. its just not.
my heart would break if a cripple happened and or one would run off.
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As I said - you can't argue with results. The deer fell after about 10 seconds. It's all in the level of skill. There are tribes that hunt large antelope with sharpened sticks. And the stakes are a lot higher than the casual hunter in the US. If they are not successful they can't run to the grocery store and buy something to eat. By the same token, I have seen video of people shooting a doe with a large caliber airgun and have to track them for a long time.
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Very nice shot. Without the big bang, the deer didn't feel the need to run far. He just felt a sting in the side, heard a click, and slowly lost consciousness. (as BeemanR7 said) None of the deer even knew what had happened. Maybe even thought it was a bad bug bite. They knew something was on the other side of the bushes, but that's it.
.25 cal with 50 FPE at the muzzle? It's enough to break a rib and get into the clockwork. Admittedly, not a lot of room for error. I do wonder if it was a heart shot or a lung shot. How long would a lung shot take to kill?
I think there was a break in the video, so we don't know how much time elapsed between the hit and the fall. I AM curious about that bit.
d27447: That may have been a trophy buck to us, but to them it was dinner for a few families for a couple weeks.
It's great that he showed the aftermath of the hunt, to silence the ignorant folks who would assume he was just hunting for sport.
.25 cal with 50 FPE at the muzzle? It's enough to break a rib and get into the clockwork. Admittedly, not a lot of room for error. I do wonder if it was a heart shot or a lung shot. How long would a lung shot take to kill?
I think there was a break in the video, so we don't know how much time elapsed between the hit and the fall. I AM curious about that bit.
d27447: That may have been a trophy buck to us, but to them it was dinner for a few families for a couple weeks.
It's great that he showed the aftermath of the hunt, to silence the ignorant folks who would assume he was just hunting for sport.
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Hello Smaug it doesn't seem like a break in the video to me. The deer ran out of the frame and he immediately followed it with the video.
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not something people should be doing. hunting big game with a .25 pellet gun.
even the 22 rimire at 140 foot pounds will take moose and caribou. and bear.
should people be doing it no.
that's where a 7mm or 340 wea magnum comes in.
even a 22 magnum at 350 foot pounds is too low to hunt deer. yes it will take them.
but how many more people will loose them,
even the 22 rimire at 140 foot pounds will take moose and caribou. and bear.
should people be doing it no.
that's where a 7mm or 340 wea magnum comes in.
even a 22 magnum at 350 foot pounds is too low to hunt deer. yes it will take them.
but how many more people will loose them,
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People lose game with high powered firearms if they don't hit the animal's' vitals. It all come down to skill level. I wouldn't hunt deer with a crossbow but a lot of people do. They haven't had 7mm guns throughout history but people been hunting deer with weapons a lot less powerful than 25 cal air rifles and been killing them.
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aa_limited: We're fortunate to live in a time when we can be so picky about how quick of a death is ethical.
I read somewhere that native Americans out west are still allowed to hunt deer with 22LR, I guess due to their superior stalking and hunting skills. Sneak up and take head shots. If not, shoot in the boiler room and be ready to track. (which they're also good at!)
In this particular case, I question whether the death would have been more ethical with a 30-06? It would have scared the hell out of the whole herd. The one shot may have gone a lot further and been under a lot more stress, due to adrenaline caused by the noise.
My concern is if the pellet had hit a rib squarely, would it have been as clean of a kill? I can only guess that it went between ribs or just glanced off a rib. If it hit the rib squarely, maybe it would break the rib without getting to the clockwork.
I read somewhere that native Americans out west are still allowed to hunt deer with 22LR, I guess due to their superior stalking and hunting skills. Sneak up and take head shots. If not, shoot in the boiler room and be ready to track. (which they're also good at!)
In this particular case, I question whether the death would have been more ethical with a 30-06? It would have scared the hell out of the whole herd. The one shot may have gone a lot further and been under a lot more stress, due to adrenaline caused by the noise.
My concern is if the pellet had hit a rib squarely, would it have been as clean of a kill? I can only guess that it went between ribs or just glanced off a rib. If it hit the rib squarely, maybe it would break the rib without getting to the clockwork.
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If you stop the video at 3:30-33 it show the entry wound. It was just behind the shoulder before the first rib. So it went directly into the heart. Like I said, this guy seems like he knew exactly where to place the pellet.
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Looks like that shooter knew exactly where to place that pellet and I am very impressed with the power to penetrate so deep at that distance.There is another video a fellow shoots a hog about the same distance with a head shot in 25 or 30 cal fx impact clean kill just the same.
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ok so what if the pellet hit the ribs what then. we all know what would happen.. that deer would suffer big time
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Yep, that's why it's controversial.
I would think at least .36 cal, as I think it was chance that he didn't hit a rib. Some states that are allowing airgun for big game are saying minimum .40 cal. (which Crosman is not happy with) My feeling is that if a fellow is going to buy a big bore airgun, he may as well just go right to .45 or .50 cal at 850 fps.
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