Co2 pistol

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    wolfdog
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    Anyone have one they would recommend for fun and training?

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    nervoustrig
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    Training for competition or training for safe gun handling and usage?  That will partition the suggestions significantly.  

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    whitefox545
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    Wolf dog, It's hard to go wrong with a Crosman 2240!  price is right and an unending supply of hop-up parts if you choose to.

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    fishinwrench
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    I have been looking into them some myself.  Power and a quick repeat shot is a "thing" for me because I want to do some short range indoor pesting, and want to at least be able to blow through a soup can at 15 yards.   

    The cheap Crosman and Gamo revolvers seem to have the most power, and the accuracy looks to be "ok". 

    I refuse to shoot BB's in my shop because they'll ricochet all over the place and there are boats (and eyeballs) nearby.  

    If I wasn't in the market for a repeater then the choice would be simple …. Crossman 2240…. or 1377/1322 and to hell with CO2 cartridges.

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    nervoustrig
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    On the entry level end of the spectrum, the Crosman 2240 and the SPA CP1-M (marketed as the Mrodair Targetmaster, Diana Chaser, and others) are the ones that come to mind.  I have both and they have their pros and cons but they both represent good values.

     

    Be mindful that all the ones on the low end are wasteful of CO2 so they will benefit greatly from some tuning.  At the very least, adjust hammer spring length or preload, but preferably add some sort of anti-bounce feature like an SSG or bstaley O-ring buffer.  For example, my CP1-M went from about 25 shots per cartridge to over 50 by adding an O-ring buffer, at a negligible tradeoff in velocity.

     

    A byproduct of being a CO2 hog is also that it makes the velocity particularly sensitive to minor changes in temperature, so that’s another good reason to do some tuning.  Granted if the distances will be short, say for 10m practice, I doubt it would be noticeable but if you’re wanting to use it for 20 yards or more, the trajectory variation would be obvious.

     

    Between these two models, in my opinion the CP1-M is the better value (all wood and metal, better trigger, single-shot tray or magazine) while the 2240 has better manufacturer support and parts availability.

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    nervoustrig
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    Fishinwrench, note the CP1-M is magazine fed if you hadn’t come across it yet. 

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    jwrabbit123
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    do u guys hunt with pistols?

    Closest pcp gun which is a pistol is My edgun leshiy …22 and I love it , with scope 4 pounds 6 ounces . I guess it I short rifle or Long pistol  . like Clint Eastwoods 44 mag LOL

     

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    nervoustrig
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    I sometimes carry one with me while pesting from a hide, to deal with squirrels and chipmunks that come up in close range.

    Otherwise no, I’m not practiced enough with a pistol to take humane shots at the distances I typically need which is usually 25-40 yards.  Frankly I’m not convinced any amount of practice would sufficiently prepare me for that.

    It so happens I’m waiting on a folding stock to come in for my PP700S-A (regulated .177 PCP pistol) and that should help me extend its useful range but I can’t call it a pistol.  

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    fishinwrench
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    I kinda like that one, and no I hadn't seen it before.    

    I notice that some are left hand bolt.   Is that an option or is it interchangeable?    I could never get used to that I'm afraid.

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    jwrabbit123
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    wow 40 yards is good accuracy for a PCP pistol 

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    AirNGasman
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    "do u guys hunt with pistols? wow 40 yards is good accuracy for a PCP pistol" Yes, and yes.

    I finished my air pistol (specific) book in 2018 that, though not ALL things air pistols, is probably the most comprehensive air pistol book ever published. Includes air pistolsl hunting, fifty-yard accuracy testing, field target competition, vintage and collectables, etc. Details below-

     

     

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    fishinwrench
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    AirNGasman

    "do u guys hunt with pistols?

     

     

    I have a modified 1322 that I think I am capable of hunting with….but I haven't yet.  

    I am actually more solid on the side of a tree with that pistol than I am with any of my rifles.   

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    AirNGasman
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    A souped-up 1322 can be an excellent small-game pistol, Fishin. Got a photo and details?

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    ranedouglas
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    ….i would love to hear about your hot-rodded 1322 , and see pics , too . .  .i am doing a black one and a brown one now….  i got a bunch of stuff from charles mellon airguns and i've been using some old early model 760 parts , too. . .     after a guy goes thru all the hot-rodding , what is an average velocity expectation with the 10 , or even 14.5 "  barrels with the 14.3 grainers ? ?       

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    fishinwrench
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    AirNGasman

    A souped-up 1322 can be an excellent small-game pistol, Fishin. Got a photo and details?

    Nothing you haven't seen before….  

    Steel breech.

    Enlarged and re-sealed (with bic lighter O-rings) transfer port.

    Double O-rings on the bolt probe for a snug lockup.

    Bearing trigger trick, and all moving parts polished smooth.  

    Stock piston & valve with polished and coned exhaust port.

    Piece of bicycle inner tube along the bottom of the cylinder to quiet the SMACK SMACK SMACK while pumping it up.

    10 pumps 

    15 pumps 

    I actually never go 15 pumps, but I do go 12 pumps for shots over 25 yards.  

    I'm zeroed at 20 yards with 10 pumps. (first zero is at 12 yds.)

    12 pumps moves my far zero to 30 yards. (with a first zero at 15 yds.) 

    How convenient, right?!!! 😊

     

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    fishinwrench
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    I'm not a fan of the flat face piston/valve and enlarged valve capacity like most guys are.   Since I didn't go with a longer barrel I elected to keep the valve chamber small to increase pressure (per # of pumps) without having to pump it 20+ times.   

    All that excessive pumping would wear me out !    

    I would rather have more pressure in the valve, instead of more capacity in the valve…..which I can't make use of anyway with the standard length barrel.  No problem with the hammer spring being strong enough to dump it since everything pressure-wise is stock.

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    wolfdog
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    Safe gun handling close pest control.

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    fivestar45
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    Safe gun handling close pest control.

    For this a single shot is a + …I'd recommend the Crosman 2240.  If down the line your needs change there are plenty of OEM, and aftermarket parts readily available. And Crosman's Customer Service is second to none.

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    TucsonAZ
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    I don't think for the price you could possibly beat this:

     

    http://yhst-139878093962642.stores.yahoo.net/mrcpmushco2t.html

     

    I wasn't even planning on buying anything but for $79 the CP-1M is hard to pass on.  Mine should be here any day now.

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    Noose
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    I bought a 2300s by crosman.  You can get it direct and use the agnation discount code to get it pretty cheap.  It's super accurate and the velocity is pretty good.  It's on the higher end of plinkers for sure.

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