Choosing a new air gun

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Hello everyone,
At the moment I can't spend thousands of dollars on a good English or South Korean PCP rifle, so I will have to settle for something not nearly as good. I don't want to buy a springer, so I am looking at these models:
- Crosman Nitro Venom Dusk;
- Cometa Fusion Galaxy;
- Gamo Bull Whisper;
I really don't know which one to pick. I like all of them. That's it. I am not expecting to buy a perfect gun. What do you think? 


Thank you in advance
 
"22junkie"Get a Weihrauch HW95. If you are going to get something, at least get something great. $299 from Airguns of Arizona. You won't regret it. It will shoot great, you will have something that serves whatever purpose you want, plinking, hunting, target shooting, etc. And buy really good pellets and a decent scope and scope mount.
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Yep great beginner springer and a great deal in my opinion.
 
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At least one of the rifles you listed is retailing for $297. The other two are listing at $180 at PA. I have the HW95 in .22 caliber. If you buy one of the three you listed and you continue to be interested in airguns you will wind up wishing you had bought the Weihrauch. If you buy the Weihrauch you won't end up wishing you had bought a Gamo. I also have a BSA gas piston rifle and I look at it and wish I had put the money on a Weihrauch. I just had to have a gas piston and I liked the weight of the rifle but now my curiosity is satisfied and I wish I had a Weihrauch in its place. An RWS 34 is also a rifle with a following.
I strongly suggest that you look at guns that have a cult like following and ask yourself why they do. If you just can't go all the way to $300 then consider a B26, B25, or B28 from Flying Dragon. They are excellent clones of Weihrauch and RWS rifles and they have a following. I have a B26 in .177 and it is stellar. I have Gamo also and it is pretty good, but not stellar.
 
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http://flyingdragonairrifles.org/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=66 I have the B26 and I would not rule out the .177. They shoot flatter and faster and pellets are cheaper in .177. Either caliber is great and expect that you are going to need to learn to shoot a springer. My B26 and my HW95 both like H&N Field Target Trophy. My 26 likes 4.51 and and the HW likes 5.53 head size. They both shoot JSB fairly well but as the saying goes, no cigar. The basic tune for $40 that Mike Melick offers along with the gun is worth it. Get a scope with an adjustable objective. I have a centerpoint 4-16X40 IR AO ($70 at Walmart) on mine with a Leapers one piece mount. http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/Leapers_Accushot_1_Pc_Mount_w_1_Rings_High_11mm_Dovetail/636
 
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I think most of the rifles on the market today are fine. Some are just better and some actually have great triggers. Hatsan rifles are enjoying a good reputation, but I've never shot one. The way I see it is that you can buy a rifle based on price or performance. There are so many rifles to choose from that it becomes confusing. The Beeman and Weihrauch rifles as well as the Air Arms TX and Pro Sport, and Diana/RWS are the standards by which all of the Gamo's and Hatsans are judged. When you go to Flying Dragon you will see clones of the R9/HW95, RWS 34 and 350. Nobody clones the Gamo or Hatsan and they are good rifles. If you were asking me about getting a .22 caliber rimfire, I would tell you to get a CZ. Lots of good rimfires out there, but CZ is the only rimfire I would point anyone to unless they were in formal ISSF style competition and then I would point them to an Anshutz 54 action 19 or 20 series. I have a LOT of rimfires. Buy a CZ. I have really tasty rimfire rifles to play with, but for the money nothing else compares to CZ until you are ready to lay down some serious, serious money.
The gun I am most likely to buy next is the HW30s. If not the 30 then it will be another 95. I drool over the HW98 or Beeman R11(same gun) but I can't justify it for the kind of shooting I do. Money drives my choices also, but life is short. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyF-k91Ivm8
 
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I'm not a springer expert but so far I'm enjoying the two Hatsan springers I bought. The Quattro trigger is nice to have and I've found them to fire at very close to advertised speed and power wise. But I will admit there are other guns out there with a higher finish to them.

So if you're looking for a gun that will be a work horse the Hatsans are a good choice. If you want a gun that'll be as nice to look as it is to use weihrauch, air arms and diana rifles are the way to go.
 
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It's been my experience with low end Crosmans/Benjamins that the trigger is not enjoyable to shoot. Hatsan's Quattro trigger is much better. I'm not saying Hatsan's are perfect; mine is currently boxed up for a return for service, something broke. It happens. But I know the trigger is miles ahead of the last Crosman I owned and I'm willing to keep working with the Hatsan. At this point I think the biggest problem I'm going to have with it is keeping all the screws tight. The powerful, cheap guns today seem to literally shoot themselves to pieces. I have a 95 Vortex .22 btw.
 
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I have a hatsan striker 1000x. It's pretty accurate I can get 3/4 inch groups at 25-30 yards with a good rest but one time I went to cock it and the stock split in half and it killed the scope. I sent it in to get a different stock and it took a while but got it back and it holds up good but you have to watch the screw in the stock it comes loose a lot and it affect the accuracy and a better chance of having it blow up like it did to me. The hatsan striker is cheaper than a lot of hatsans guns and I'm sure the more expensive the longer they will last and more durable they are.
 
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 Why stick to gas ram? Have you fired and enjoyed a "air spring" rifle better than a metal spring rifle? Gas rams can be very violent even if the jolt is of less duration.

Right, Gamo does NOT like to sell any real parts ( maybe a front sight replacement but not a thing internal.
I have fired a nitro, fairly violent, fairly poor trigger but that can be improved.
Cometa, NO idea how close it would compaire to my RWS92 ( discontinued but from the same Spanish factory) the 92 is outstanding, was rated at 700fps, shoots 705 with real pellets. Maybe they are still as good?

Last week you could have gotten an RWS34 with T-06 trigger for $159.00. Has a normal metal spring but one heck of a decent springer.

Do try to get your hands on some of the ones you are interested in if at all possible.


John


 
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"22junkie"I think most of the rifles on the market today are fine. Some are just better and some actually have great triggers. Hatsan rifles are enjoying a good reputation, but I've never shot one. The way I see it is that you can buy a rifle based on price or performance. There are so many rifles to choose from that it becomes confusing. The Beeman and Weihrauch rifles as well as the Air Arms TX and Pro Sport, and Diana/RWS are the standards by which all of the Gamo's and Hatsans are judged. When you go to Flying Dragon you will see clones of the R9/HW95, RWS 34 and 350. Nobody clones the Gamo or Hatsan and they are good rifles. If you were asking me about getting a .22 caliber rimfire, I would tell you to get a CZ. Lots of good rimfires out there, but CZ is the only rimfire I would point anyone to unless they were in formal ISSF style competition and then I would point them to an Anshutz 54 action 19 or 20 series. I have a LOT of rimfires. Buy a CZ. I have really tasty rimfire rifles to play with, but for the money nothing else compares to CZ until you are ready to lay down some serious, serious money.
The gun I am most likely to buy next is the HW30s. If not the 30 then it will be another 95. I drool over the HW98 or Beeman R11(same gun) but I can't justify it for the kind of shooting I do. Money drives my choices also, but life is short. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyF-k91Ivm8
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I own a Hatsan 125 in 25 cal.It is diffinitly a aucurat rifle out to 50 yards.Its on the heavy side and is very hold senate election
 
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Airgun Depot has been having Dianas on their refurbished page alot lately. I would hold out for a 34. A Hawke Vantage 4X or 3-9X40 and a Hawke 1-piece mount would probably bring the whole package to around $250. Easy access to OEM parts as well as lots of aftermarket stuff. The T06 trigger is light years of anything Chinese or Turkish IMO. Either .177 or .22 will smoke a pigeon out to 35 or 40 yards.

Scotty

 
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