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Choice help (weihrauch analysis paralysis)

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    DualMagMike
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    All Beeman, none made in China!

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    bowtieguy66
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    https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=34089.0

    ”I think that Beeman hit the slippery slope when Doc Beeman retired and sold the company.  That's about when the big influx of Chinese guns started.  Most are what you might call entry-level and copies of Spanish guns like the old Marksman 0035 (Norica 56?).  When Beeman (the company) was recently reorganized, it spin off into two, distinct entities – one retailing the German R series and the other Chinese.  I think the Chinese Beemans, such as those mentioned, are still good values for the money but they are Beeman in name only.  (And the "good" Beemans are simply rebadged HW's.)

    PS – Doc Beeman was never averse to offering modestly priced guns along with the HW's.  His Falcons, for example, were Gamo models.”

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    bowtieguy66
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    https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2012/08/the-beeman-r1-supermagnum-air-rifle-18-years-later-part-1/

    The R1 is made for Beeman by Weihrauch. The R1 was designed by Robert Beeman, who employed a CAD engineer just for the task of designing the gun. The agreement he made with Weihrauch was that Beeman owned the R1, but Weihrauch was free to market the same action in a European stock under the model name HW80. The 80 in that model name refers to the length of the piston stroke in millimeters. The R1 was a redesign of the HW35, which you now understand has a piston stroke of 35mm.

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    DualMagMike
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    again old news that I already mentioned about the R1 & P1 designed by Beeman… the "good Beeman's" go well beyond HW and consist of Daystate, Webley, FWB and more, in fact all those are in my picture above.

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    bowtieguy66
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    Designed, not made by. Rebadge everything.

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    DualMagMike
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    Once again old news and mentioned several times, you keep repeating the same thing so I'll repeat again. Beeman never said they made anything. Importer, not hard to understand really, but to say "don't go Beeman" and or Chinese made is again very misleading. Had you mentioned new Beeman product that would be quite different. Said nothing about made by…

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    L4z4r0s
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    EMrider

    Like a few others here, I have experience with all three of your potential choices.  One thing not yet mentioned is that the hw80 and the hw35 both use a larger 30mm compression chamber, whereas the hw95 has a 26mm compression chamber.  I much prefer the shot cycle of the 26mm design.  IMHO, the 30mm chamber just feels too snappy and harsh.  The hw95 is an excellent all-round workhorse spring gun that can do most anything well and can be tuned to shoot accurately between 10fpe and 15fpe.  

    That said, if I could only have one Weihrauch springer (perish the thought), it would be an hw50 in .177.

    Good luck choosing.

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    The hw 50 seems to be an awesome rifle too, especially with the newer redesigned stock that it comes with!!! Thing is, i've read some statements that it might suffer from galling… it seems to be a fairly common issue with the hw50… perhaps they fixed it with the new version??

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    L4z4r0s
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    Fischer

    All are solid ideas listed above for the reasons each says.

    I can say I have all HW80s (all calibers) HW95s (all calibers) and HW35Es (Silver and Blue in both .177 and .22).

    I also have had all calbers except .25 in HW50. (the .20 is kind of harder to find but worth it especially in the HW50 machine)

    The only HW50s I have now are .20 scoped and .20 unscoped (each dedicated to their own sight to prevent worry about POI shift with the dedicated sight).

    I would lean toward the HW95 or HW95L or best, the HW98.

    The HW80s are indeed heavy, long, touchy, and vastly overpowered for what accuracy and a bit less power provides (I.e. the HW98–perfect balance of all).

    If more power than an HW95 or 98 is needed, I'd suggest the D54 sidelever.  I liked the model first time I tried it out (donated for my use for two months by Hector in .20).

    The D54 is a robust rifle, but IT MAKES YOU SLOW DOWN between shots to make the MOST of each shot–and it IS RECOILLESS.  No recoil that you feel AT ALL!

    I will always support the HW95/95L/98 before the HW80 or HW35E or HW50.

    But in the face of the D54 every rifle I own now does take a back seat to its ability and accuracy.

    Kindly,

     

    The hw 50 seems to be an awesome rifle too, especially with the newer redesigned stock that it comes with!!! Thing is, i've read some statements that it might suffer from galling… it seems to be a fairly common issue with the hw50… perhaps they fixed it with the new version??

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