Choice help (weihrauch analysis paralysis)
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”I think that Beeman hit the slippery slope when Doc Beeman retired and sold the company. That's about when the big influx of Chinese guns started. Most are what you might call entry-level and copies of Spanish guns like the old Marksman 0035 (Norica 56?). When Beeman (the company) was recently reorganized, it spin off into two, distinct entities - one retailing the German R series and the other Chinese. I think the Chinese Beemans, such as those mentioned, are still good values for the money but they are Beeman in name only. (And the "good" Beemans are simply rebadged HW's.)
PS - Doc Beeman was never averse to offering modestly priced guns along with the HW's. His Falcons, for example, were Gamo models.”
”I think that Beeman hit the slippery slope when Doc Beeman retired and sold the company. That's about when the big influx of Chinese guns started. Most are what you might call entry-level and copies of Spanish guns like the old Marksman 0035 (Norica 56?). When Beeman (the company) was recently reorganized, it spin off into two, distinct entities - one retailing the German R series and the other Chinese. I think the Chinese Beemans, such as those mentioned, are still good values for the money but they are Beeman in name only. (And the "good" Beemans are simply rebadged HW's.)
PS - Doc Beeman was never averse to offering modestly priced guns along with the HW's. His Falcons, for example, were Gamo models.”
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https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2012/08/the-beeman-r1-supermagnum-air-rifle-18-years-later-part-1/
The R1 is made for Beeman by Weihrauch. The R1 was designed by Robert Beeman, who employed a CAD engineer just for the task of designing the gun. The agreement he made with Weihrauch was that Beeman owned the R1, but Weihrauch was free to market the same action in a European stock under the model name HW80. The 80 in that model name refers to the length of the piston stroke in millimeters. The R1 was a redesign of the HW35, which you now understand has a piston stroke of 35mm.
The R1 is made for Beeman by Weihrauch. The R1 was designed by Robert Beeman, who employed a CAD engineer just for the task of designing the gun. The agreement he made with Weihrauch was that Beeman owned the R1, but Weihrauch was free to market the same action in a European stock under the model name HW80. The 80 in that model name refers to the length of the piston stroke in millimeters. The R1 was a redesign of the HW35, which you now understand has a piston stroke of 35mm.
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again old news that I already mentioned about the R1 & P1 designed by Beeman... the "good Beeman's" go well beyond HW and consist of Daystate, Webley, FWB and more, in fact all those are in my picture above.
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Once again old news and mentioned several times, you keep repeating the same thing so I'll repeat again. Beeman never said they made anything. Importer, not hard to understand really, but to say "don't go Beeman" and or Chinese made is again very misleading. Had you mentioned new Beeman product that would be quite different. Said nothing about made by...
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The hw 50 seems to be an awesome rifle too, especially with the newer redesigned stock that it comes with!!! Thing is, i've read some statements that it might suffer from galling... it seems to be a fairly common issue with the hw50... perhaps they fixed it with the new version??
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The hw 50 seems to be an awesome rifle too, especially with the newer redesigned stock that it comes with!!! Thing is, i've read some statements that it might suffer from galling... it seems to be a fairly common issue with the hw50... perhaps they fixed it with the new version??
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FWIW, Some question on LOP = My HW95L is 14.25” trigger to center butt. WIN M70 30-06 = 13.875", CVA Accura V2 50 BP = 14.5"
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Mike do you own all models of springers ever made? Or is there one that you haven’t found yet! Enjoy your information and pictures you share with us keep it coming. Thanks
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No, not even close and don't really aspire to. I collect what I like and like what I collect. Really it's about suiting my eye mostly but I do gravitate towards classic and rare specimen's. Believe it or not there are dozens more I would love to track down some day.
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My 95 was purchased as a .177 and I added a .22 barrel. I like it so much in either configuration, I really should buy a second one. Currently it wears the .177 barrel with a 12fpe kit installed, such a sweet shooter.
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I have a R9 .177 and a HW95 in .177. I need a another HW95 in .22 and probably a .20 caliber HW95 as well. So many rifles, so little time.
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