CenterPoint Spectrum 4-12x44mm FFP Riflescope

I checked Crosman's site. Little information to be honest. The scope is here:

https://www.crosman.com/optics/scopes/4-12x44-mm-riflescope

If you download the manual and look in #7 Maintenance, it says it's an MOA scope with +- 35 MOA windage and elevation. Turrets are also MOA, so I'd say, it's an MOA scope. Probably 1 MOA per hash, but better call Crosman to make sure.
 
Your question has some gaps in it. I will try to fill in what I can. I have that scope on my .22 cal at 42 fpe. Note, different speeds and different pellets will yield different results.

The hash marks represent the same distance on target at 4 power as they do at 12 power, unlike a second focal plane scope. If at 100 yards, you have 3" between marks at 4 power, you will ha e 3" between the marks at 12 power, also. For my set up, zero at 50 (and at 15 yards) first hash below crosshair is 80 yards and second hash is 100y. It is incumbent upon you to figure your drop at different distances. My highest point is at 25-35 yards at .75 hash above the crosshair. I have tested and noted holds for 15-110 yards in 5 yard increments. Know your gun and how it shoots. There is no way to short cut.
 
I think something is wrong with Crosman's photos of the reticle and deer at 4 and 12 power. With a FFP scope shouldn't the hash marks be at the same place on the deer at 12 power as they are at 4 power? Looks like the reticle grew more then the deer.

Yes, the editor of the art work made an error with the clip art used. The scope is a FFP, for sure.
 
I’m continually surprised at the low quality of the Crosman webpage. They don’t explain their products well. They misname and mislabel them. And the customer needs to go to other sellers and online stores to find out the info they need – does Crosman feel they need to dumb down the information they present?



I was just looking at this scope yesterday, and wanted to put it on my scope list of specs for 2-12x scopes. But I didn’t. Here’s why.



First of all, they put caps on the turrets – which for me is the manufacturer’s way of saying: “Shooter, zero this scope, and then leave the turrets alone. They don’t withstand frequent adjustments!”



Beside, they made this a FFP scope – and FFP only really makes sense if I shoot with holdovers instead of simply clicking the turrets.

But for holdovers I need a reticle with some kind of dots or hash marks that allows me to make adjustments for windage and elevation.



This scope has those markings, but the most important ones – the vertical ones below the X for elevation holdovers are not EVENLY SPACED!  Cf. pic, and the three red arrows – the arrows are all the same length....

This reticle is, I just learned, called a BDC, a bullet drop compensating reticle. And for PB shooters a BDC is calibrated to a common standard cartridge – that has a certain standard muzzle velocity and projectile weight and BC.

If Crosman doesn’t even tell us in their product manual(!) what cartridge the reticle is calibrated for – then this has got to be the biggest scope joke in a while...! 😂 => 😲 => 😭



As our airguns do not have standard muzzle velocities, standard projectile weights, or standard BC, this reticle is NONSENSE for airgunners who want to use hold over and benefit from the FFP. Because we need mil dots or moa hash marks that are evenly spaced out for making our holdovers.

And the scope is nonsense for airgunners who want to revert to clicking the turrets, as Crosman decided to put turret caps on the scope – with the clear message: “Turrets NOT suitable for daily use!” 😑





So, if you already have this scope, here’s one “work around” this nonsense:

Using your gun’s favorite pellet, zero the gun with the scope at a range suitable to your typical shooting distances.

Now shoot that pellet at target cards (o pieces of paper with a dot) beyond your far zero distance – spaced out every 5 yards. Aim the cross-hairs always at the bull’s eye.

After shooting a group, check if the group center coincides with one of the three horizontal hash lines below the cross-hairs. If they do, then you know that for that pellet, at that distance, that horizontal hash mark is your holdover.

The same can be done for the range up to your near zero.



Have fun. Or sell it!

Matthias

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Thanks Matthias,

I figured this out yesterday, I was outside checking the group which unfortunately did not coincide with the lower lines at at distance worthwhile. I hope to get a little time tomorrow to play with it, but its most likely going back to amazon to be replaced by some real mildot scope, oh yea, with turrets.

I'll post my final decision when I make it.


 
I’m continually surprised at the low quality of the Crosman webpage. They don’t explain their products well. They misname and mislabel them. And the customer needs to go to other sellers and online stores to find out the info they need – does Crosman feel they need to dumb down the information they present?



I was just looking at this scope yesterday, and wanted to put it on my scope list of specs for 2-12x scopes. But I didn’t. Here’s why.



First of all, they put caps on the turrets – which for me is the manufacturer’s way of saying: “Shooter, zero this scope, and then leave the turrets alone. They don’t withstand frequent adjustments!”



Beside, they made this a FFP scope – and FFP only really makes sense if I shoot with holdovers instead of simply clicking the turrets.

But for holdovers I need a reticle with some kind of dots or hash marks that allows me to make adjustments for windage and elevation.



This scope has those markings, but the most important ones – the vertical ones below the X for elevation holdovers are not EVENLY SPACED!  Cf. pic, and the three red arrows – the arrows are all the same length....

This reticle is, I just learned, called a BDC, a bullet drop compensating reticle. And for PB shooters a BDC is calibrated to a common standard cartridge – that has a certain standard muzzle velocity and projectile weight and BC.

If Crosman doesn’t even tell us in their product manual(!) what cartridge the reticle is calibrated for – than this has got to be the biggest scope joke in a while...! 😂 => 😲 => 😭



As our airguns do not have standard muzzle velocities, standard projectile weights, or standard BC, this reticle is NONSENSE for airgunners who want to use hold over and benefit from the FFP. Because we need mil dots or moa hash marks that are evenly spaced out for making our holdovers.

And the scope is nonsense for airgunners who want to revert to clicking the turrets, as Crosman decided to put turret caps on the scope – with the clear message: “Turrets NOT suitable for daily use!” 😑





So, if you already have this scope, here’s one “work around” this nonsense:

Using your gun’s favorite pellet, zero the gun with the scope at a range suitable to your typical shooting distances.

Now shoot that pellet at target cards (o pieces of paper with a dot) beyond your far zero distance – spaced out every 5 yards. Aim the cross-hairs always at the bull’s eye.

After shooting a group, check if the group center coincides with one of the three horizontal hash lines below the cross-hairs. If they do, then you know that for that pellet, at that distance, that horizontal hash mark is your holdover.

The same can be done for the range up to your near zero.



Have fun. Or sell it!

Matthias

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I was surprised when I first learned that CenterPoint was selling a FFP scope. I think they were less concerned on features and function, and more concerned on just being able to say "We sell a FFP scope" to make a couple of bucks.
 
Knothead, these last few weeks I’ve combed through the major scope brands for the specs of scopes that have around 12x magnification at the top end, and 2x at the bottom end.


The following specs were requirements, or at least important to my purchase decision:
• Price $300-500, with some extras
• Min. Parallax = 10y
• Exposed turrets (≠capped turrets)
• Turrets and reticle coincide: either MOA/MOA or MIL/MIL
• Reticle with plenty of MOA or MIL dots/ hash marks
• Turret Adjustment Range: 50MOA or more
• FFP or SFP
• IR or not
• Weight
• Tube: 30mm
• Field of View

My search for that particular magnification range has come up almost empty. 😐


The next larger magnification ranges have plenty of scopes to choose from, and they all satisfy most or all the listed requirements.



There are TWO comprehensive scope model comparison tables with specs:

● 3-16x (4-16, 3-18x)
https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/scope-model-comparison-with-specifications-3-16x-300-500/

● 6-24x (5-25x, 4-20x)
https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/scope-model-comparison-with-specifications-6-24x-300-500/


I hope these can be helpful. 😊

Matthias


 
Oh man I bought this scope yesterday from crow man at half price. It didn’t hit me that the lines below center aren’t evenly spaced and may be BDC lines.

so I am either going to zero this scope half way up the upper hash marks and have down to the crosshairs for holdover or I may even mount it upside down. I’m no scope anatomy expert, but I think it won’t care how it’s mounted right. My adjustments would be backward and hard to reach on the elevation, but I can deal if it t an otherwise good scope. Any thoughts on upside down mounting?
 
Ok here is a follow up for anyone else thinking about buying my this scope. 
overall impression, not bad. Not bad at all, but it really isn’t a good match to airguns. Here’s why.

i would like a better than 15 yard minimum parallax. I don’t know that I ever even checked for that, but it is 15 yards on this scope. The box says 10, but it’s 15. The dial only goes to 15 also.

On to the reticle. It IS a BDC reticle. No for what round. The bottom line is about 10 mils low. That’s eyeballing it. And they are not evenly spaced, the bottom ones, so they are most likely some form of BDC.

The upper and side hash marks. Well I only had 25 feet, 8.3 yards, to measure so I fought the parallax a tad but I am confident with my measurement. I ranged it and sighted on a yard stick with 1/8” marks. Could barely see the marks due to the close range even at only 4X power. The marks are 2 mils each.

I verified my range finder with a tape measure, I got out another known mildot scope and verified what I saw that way too. 


it has 20 mils above the crosshairs. FFP is great with a mildot scope. But why have a mildot / BDC hybrid? I know it has its place somewhere; tactical hunting maybe! I also get the 2 mil spacing, it would get cluttered at low power otherwise. But if a hunter is versed enough to range with the mil dots then why would that hunter need or want cheater lines below the crosshairs? I don’t know.

But I do know I will keep this at least long enough to mount it upside down on my flashpup!

I’ll have my parallax on the right, the zoom wheel numbers will not be readable, but I will print a “this side up” label to make it ok.


 
OK, here's an update on this sorry CenterPoint Spectrum 4-12x44 FFP scope from Crosman:

CALIBRRATION OF THE RETICLE:



I HAD to make this scope work, I needed it, so I did the leg work measuring the reticle (I'd say accurate to ± 0.1 moa).



I calibrated the reticle in MOA -- because the turrets are in MOA, and it seems to make no sense if turrets and reticle speak different languages....

However, I've met so many shooters who somehow like this disconnect, so for your enjoyment there is a calibration in MIL as well. 😆



I'll attach a JPG and a PDF file of both the subtension in MOA and in MIL.



What's left for me (and any other owner of this scope) is to figure out, what range each of the elevation subtension represents – with a certain pellet–power–range combination.



Should you chance upon the reticle or a similar one in Strelok Pro, let us know here in this thread, plz.

Matthias



ATTACHMENTS:

MOA Reticle (PDF)

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MIL Reticle (PDF)

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MOA Reticle (JPG)

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MIL Reticle (JPG)

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