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Mmm been the stx barrel probably one of the most accurate by far (just a fact on all long distance Benchrest events), I disagree with you. There is room for improvement, sure! But your statement is not "accurate"

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Not sure that statement is accurate either. “Probably” is your opinion, but “by far” is an exaggeration. Using 100 yard events is not a good benchmark since accuracy is not a major factor in winning, but more wind reading and overall shooter skill, plus a dose of luck. Just because the majority of shooters at these events are shooting them doesn’t mean their guns are more accurate than the other the gun and barrel systems. Using that logic I could say the LW Poly barrel is the most accurate since it won EBR two years in a row. My opinion is that accuracy between the STX liner and other quality barrels is pretty much equivalent. Once your gun is shooting MOA at 100 yards it doesn’t matter anyway because at that point it’s up to the shooter...

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Mmm been the stx barrel probably one of the most accurate by far (just a fact on all long distance Benchrest events), I disagree with you. There is room for improvement, sure! But your statement is not "accurate"

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Not sure that statement is accurate either. “Probably” is your opinion, but “by far” is an exaggeration. Using 100 yard events is not a good benchmark since accuracy is not a major factor in winning, but more wind reading and overall shooter skill, plus a dose of luck. Just because the majority of shooters at these events are shooting them doesn’t mean their guns are more accurate than the other the gun and barrel systems. Using that logic I could say the LW Poly barrel is the most accurate since it won EBR two years in a row. My opinion is that accuracy between the STX liner and other quality barrels is pretty much equivalent. Once your gun is shooting MOA at 100 yards it doesn’t matter anyway because at that point it’s up to the shooter...

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I think you are getting wrong my comments and out of context, you miss one important thing in you reply and that is:

Theres no precision in a slip fit.

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STX Barrels / liners are slip fit ... so that is plain wrong

The probably is in the same context, and is probably because I do not have all the stats, maybe you will like to take a look. My logic is simple, take the first 20 places on the top 3 events on long distance benchrest (75y and 100y) and check the barrels used. and OF COURSE IMO normal shooters (meaning those that can not test all the guns they want) can find there where precision / accuracy can be measured is Long Distance Benchrest with different brands without much (important "much" bias on, for example, some youtubers opinions), debatable, sure! but is what I believe. I did that exercise few months back.

Neither I am sayin is THE MOST ACCURATE, I said "one of the most accurate", I believe FX, LW, TJ are probably the top3 (that I have tested) , ART Daystate might be good too (I have not tested that), and then by far, all others. (jaja that might be an exaggeration)

Using that logic I could say the LW Poly barrel is the most accurate since it won EBR two years in a row.

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You are totally wrong with "my logic", my logic is simple, take the 20 first places and see what barrel they are using. NOT ONLY THE WINNERS! and take the 2018 and 2019 75y and 100y events in USA. And you will see the most accurate barrels/liners , well actually is precision, but can you have precision without accuracy? jaja that is another debate.

IMO in any precision sport, consistency over time is more important than 1 day result. If you have a better way to tell which are the top barrels in long distance, please, be let me know! 

BTW CC what barrel did you use winning the latest amateur EBR?

"Fighty" monday?

PS: sorry for the edits, I speak spanish, remember? sometimes my words are not precise / accurate

No problem. I speak pretty good Spanish also. While we’re not in agreement, that’s ok. For example, if out of 100 shooters, 80 are shooting FX, 15 Daystate, and 5 “Other”, and assume for a minute all are of the same skill, which brand will have the most top ten finishes? My only point is that the STX liner is truly a very good barrel, but no better than other top of the line barrels...

And yes, I was shooting an ST barrel, not an STX liner system, but still FX. Oddly enough, and I may be the only one with this opinion, but I think the ST barrel is better in the wind than the STX liner system. IMHO only. 
FYI, la abuela de mi esposa vive en Chile  

No problem. I speak pretty good Spanish also. While we’re not in agreement, that’s ok. For example, if out of 100 shooters, 80 are shooting FX, 15 Daystate, and 5 “Other”, and assume for a minute all are of the same skill, which brand will have the most top ten finishes? My only point is that the STX liner is truly a very good barrel, but no better than other top of the line barrels...

And yes, I was shooting an ST barrel, not an STX liner system, but still FX. Oddly enough, and I may be the only one with this opinion, but I think the ST barrel is better in the wind than the STX liner system. IMHO only. 
FYI, la abuela de mi esposa vive en Chile

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My Spanish reference is because my english is not as accurate as my spanish (I do not speak or write in english much but here) jaja get it? when I re read, I find that my written word in english suck and I have to edit! jaja 

But I do not understand WHY we are not in agreement, your are talking about quality vs quantity, and my statement was on relation to saying that stx barrels are not precise. I KNOW there are good barrels and maybe BETTER barrels than FXs, never said is the best. Only saying that is among the best. You will have never read or hear from me that something is THE BEST, is just not me. (I do not do that) 

My only points

1- Saying STX barrels are inaccurate is not correct

2- How an average airguner do know which barrels are the best?

a) youtube: jaja lots and lots of lies there (not all)

b) forum: men try to find some info, is hard and bias sometimes

c) stats: they are all there: and not saying or talking about quantity of shooters using the A or Z barrel, talking about which ones are the ones that excel? obviously if of 100 competitors 70 are FX and 30 other brands, quantity will tell FX, but that is a wrong way to figure it out the donno top 3 barrels

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My only point is that the STX liner is truly a very good barrel, but no better than other top of the line barrels...

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I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT!, remember someone says: Theres no precision in a slip fit. 

Actually I want to have anothers airguns not FXs ... just posted in my instagram 



Which one?

Gotcha… OK, I see your point. I agree with you that the statement that STX barrels are not precise was not accurate, and yes, I agree that precision is attainable with a slip fit. My point was that if a majority of shooters are using STX, and all barrels perhaps are close to equal (at least the ones shooters compete with), then of course more STX will finish near the top... So using that rationale, it can't really be said that one is more accurate than the other, but it can be said that the STX barrel is very competitive, as much so as any other top quality barrel... What you've done with your Impacts is awesome. Maybe some day I'll own one but I haven't owned an Impact yet. But have owned Bobcat, Streamline, and Crown, so I do like FX. My older FX with ST barrels shoot every bit as accurately as my newer FX with the STX barrel...

I'm sure your English is better than my Spanish! Que te vaya bien!

My Spanish reference is because my english is not as accurate as my spanish (I do not speak or write in english much but here) jaja get it? when I re read, I find that my written word in english suck and I have to edit! jaja

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You do great in English, you just need to learn "haha" and "zero".

Gotcha… OK, I see your point. I agree with you that the statement that STX barrels are not precise was not accurate, and yes, I agree that precision is attainable with a slip fit. My point was that if a majority of shooters are using STX, and all barrels perhaps are close to equal (at least the ones shooters compete with), then of course more STX will finish near the top... So using that rationale, it can't really be said that one is more accurate than the other, but it can be said that the STX barrel is very competitive, as much so as any other top quality barrel... What you've done with your Impacts is awesome. Maybe some day I'll own one but I haven't owned an Impact yet. But have owned Bobcat, Streamline, and Crown, so I do like FX. My older FX with ST barrels shoot every bit as accurately as my newer FX with the STX barrel...

I'm sure your English is better than my Spanish! Que te vaya bien!

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Ohh but remember, SilverSurfer uses a TJ 1:26 barrel! jajaj see I am not STX barrels only!

I will try to choose my words better next time (in english!)

My Spanish reference is because my english is not as accurate as my spanish (I do not speak or write in english much but here) jaja get it? when I re read, I find that my written word in english suck and I have to edit! jaja

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You do great in English, you just need to learn "haha" and "zero".

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Just for reference I think the top 4 barrels for pellets are (benchrest competition accuracy)

- LOTHARWALTER Poli - TJ's - DAYSTATE ART - FX STX those are the top in my mind. (CZ following close maybe) They all have pros and cons but they are the top 4, can not say 1-2-3-4-5 I leave that to AGD top 5 jajaja