Hello, I have an interest in a short rifle. I see some of the bullpups have a scope rail that is rather higher than the bore. Is the Cricket mini about the lowest out there? Or am I missing one?
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The cricket Mini is a Carbine and not a true BullPup. It honestly does not matter how high the rail is on any of the bullpups. To get proper scope alignment you will need higher rings on those that are lower. People are all different, but if you need say 2" to the center of the scope above the receiver for your cheek weld, if the rail is 1" then you will need an additional 1" via rings. If the rail is .5" then you will need an additional 1.5" or your cheek will get "squished" into the receiver when you try to shoot. Sure you will likely be able to shoot it, but not as accurately nor as comfortable.
The Brocock Bantam, Compatto and Zbroia Kozac are also similiar to the Cricket mini in that they are "Carbines". With all these your cheek actually rests on the stock (as with a rifle) where in bullpup form your cheek is on the receiver.
The Brocock Bantam, Compatto and Zbroia Kozac are also similiar to the Cricket mini in that they are "Carbines". With all these your cheek actually rests on the stock (as with a rifle) where in bullpup form your cheek is on the receiver.
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Want a short PCP ... AKA Bull Pup get a Taipan Mutant or Veteran.
Want a REALLY short Bull Pup get the Taipan in "Shorty" configuration.
Handled them all, worked on them all .... TAIPAN all the way !!!
Scott
Want a REALLY short Bull Pup get the Taipan in "Shorty" configuration.
Handled them all, worked on them all .... TAIPAN all the way !!!
Scott
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Oldsparky, I have just completed your present journey. I moved from a Streamline and BSA Buccaneer to a Brocock Bantam and a Cricket mini. I am an old fart and not nearly as strong as before. I don't like weight and long rifles because I primarily hunt and shoot one match per month. The Bantam is a.177 I use at the match and the Cricket mini .22 is everything else. I have tried a Vulcan, a wildcat, a Taipan veteran, a Pulsar and a Daystate Renegade, an Edgun R5M , a Bantam and a Cricket. Here is my read on all of them.
First is my criterea ... no longer than a carbine, about 33", sweet to handle, i.e. does it feel comfy and fit nice, is it balanced with a scope installed, finally not too heavy to pack for 4 hours hunting, nice easy handling magazines
To heavy EDgun, Taipan, Vulcan, but the quality was stellar. solid well thought out and great workmanship.
Did not fit me well: Edgun, Taipan, Pulsar and Renegade . Again they are all great shooters and quality but just cannot get a natural feel pulling down on a rat or squirrel.
Checked all the boxes: Bantam, Wildcat and Mini Cricket.... I took the Bantam over the wildcat because of .177 and huge air tank and great Daystate quality
The Cricket just spoke to me. Came up and instantly on target, great magazines, quality almost as good as the Vulcan, lighter weight, great looking. Perhaps if I get a .25 it will be time for the WC to move in.
As a side note this sounds petty but hells bells the Renegade and Pulsar just looked kind funky and turned me off. Don't ever tell my wife I got picky about how the gun looks, my ego can't handle the ridicule. Enjoy and keep us informed.
First is my criterea ... no longer than a carbine, about 33", sweet to handle, i.e. does it feel comfy and fit nice, is it balanced with a scope installed, finally not too heavy to pack for 4 hours hunting, nice easy handling magazines
To heavy EDgun, Taipan, Vulcan, but the quality was stellar. solid well thought out and great workmanship.
Did not fit me well: Edgun, Taipan, Pulsar and Renegade . Again they are all great shooters and quality but just cannot get a natural feel pulling down on a rat or squirrel.
Checked all the boxes: Bantam, Wildcat and Mini Cricket.... I took the Bantam over the wildcat because of .177 and huge air tank and great Daystate quality
The Cricket just spoke to me. Came up and instantly on target, great magazines, quality almost as good as the Vulcan, lighter weight, great looking. Perhaps if I get a .25 it will be time for the WC to move in.
As a side note this sounds petty but hells bells the Renegade and Pulsar just looked kind funky and turned me off. Don't ever tell my wife I got picky about how the gun looks, my ego can't handle the ridicule. Enjoy and keep us informed.
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I do a lot of shooting from inside a truck and from the seat of my ATV, and walking through the desert scrub. The bullpup form factor is very handy for what I do. The scope height comes naturally, just shoulder the stock in the "pocket" raise the gun and open my eyes and I have sight picture without drama. I shoot lefty, and was not sure of the action location, but have decided I like the righty lever better than I would a dedicated lefty gun. It is easier to move the action on the body side of the gun, rather than the outside side of the gun.
My lever is mid-rear, while the FX is forward and the marauder is a rear lever.
My lever is mid-rear, while the FX is forward and the marauder is a rear lever.
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The Tiapan Veteran can have scopes mounted very close to the bore..it depends on the mounts and scope objective size.
I can can use low UTG mounts and still have -1/32" clearance scope to moderator. Scope is a 6-24x50 Vortex.
I can can use low UTG mounts and still have -1/32" clearance scope to moderator. Scope is a 6-24x50 Vortex.
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Thanks for all the good info. I had never looked at the Tiapan's. And didn't realize the Vulcan was 8lbs. More things to consider
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