BSA TACTICAL REVIEW
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Bummer, Joe, that took a turn for the dark side. Thanks for the review, abortive though it may have been.
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I'm sure she learned by example by watching you Joe !!!! While you were on the phone with BSA !!!
Ray
Ray
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Ray , I appreciate that . Sometimes I'd much rather share bad Reviews than pump BS up some dudes shorts
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Yeah BSA can go shove it where the sun doesn't shine.
Thanks for the review Joe.
Lol I would call them back up and ask them to watch the review on YouTube on that very scope and inform them of your audience that you reach.
Thanks for the review Joe.
Lol I would call them back up and ask them to watch the review on YouTube on that very scope and inform them of your audience that you reach.
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Can't say my reviews are always " Spot On " but at least they are as honest as I can make them .
I love hearing from guys on guns or scopes I've recommended and fnd they are happy with it !!
I love hearing from guys on guns or scopes I've recommended and fnd they are happy with it !!
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Dang that sucks. And i thought bsa scopes were on your good side. I laughed so hard my wife asked if i was ok, at the end of your video when you gave BSA apiece of your mind. It took me by surprise funny funny poop. Bad Sope A..hole. BSA
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Thanks for the review Joe. My thought's have always been that any company that manufactures anything can and will have issues with their product at some point. That being said, it's how they handle the issues that define them.
I thought for a moment that Bella was having a seizure, lol. You need to give a good back scratching.
I thought for a moment that Bella was having a seizure, lol. You need to give a good back scratching.
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I guess they don't get it CUSTOMER SERVICE can make it or break it in the public's eye. Even Sears understood that at one time with their craftsman tools but I guess they forgot that and look at them now. BSA better wake up quick a bad name spreads like a wild fire and is hard as hell to put out .
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Hey JoeWayneRay
What is your take on the scope that Midway USA sells:
BSA Tactical Mil-Mil Rifle Scope 30mm Tube 4-14X44mm Side Focus 1/10 Mil Adjustments First Focal MRAD Reticle Matte
I wasn't sure if you looked at this one or if it behaves similar to the BSA scope you reviewed above.
Thanks
What is your take on the scope that Midway USA sells:
BSA Tactical Mil-Mil Rifle Scope 30mm Tube 4-14X44mm Side Focus 1/10 Mil Adjustments First Focal MRAD Reticle Matte
I wasn't sure if you looked at this one or if it behaves similar to the BSA scope you reviewed above.
Thanks
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Sorry ,I haven't looked at that one . But after the bad taste the customer service thing left in my mouth . I probably won't be buying anymore BSA scopes .
I realize they come out of the same factory as many other brands ...But it's the service after the sale tha put me off their stuff.
I realize they come out of the same factory as many other brands ...But it's the service after the sale tha put me off their stuff.
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Trust475,
I think JoeWayneRay was at first pleased with what he saw, until he had a failure to adjust back to ten meters. What curdled the whole deal was the lack of gracious customer support. I have a BSA scope which is rather good (within it's price range). They make a lot of value priced scopes which are feature rich with "decently coated" glass. This is not to say they are absolutely top notch, but rather, for their price range they are normally darn good. As always, if you jump up to SWFA prices, you get better glass. And on other brands you can get similar features with better glass, albeit at double or triple the cost. They often do specialty runs for retailers, such as MidwayUSA. The product will sell for a while, and then go into a heavy price reduction on closeout. I picked up my BSA scope under closeout for a paltry $89, and am pretty happy with it. I have a basic mantra
"never buy more scope than your air rifle is accurate". This is why you will never find a Leupold scope on any of my Benjamin springers, instead you will find a UTG scope. A BSA scope is currently sitting on my Benjamin Maximus, and to be honest, it is a bit "overscoped". But the price was right ($89) in closeout. Link..
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/962234/bsa-tactical-mil-dot-rifle-scope-30mm-tube-6-24x-44mm-side-focus-glass-etched-mil-dot-reticle-matte
I think JoeWayneRay has the right of it. A scope *can* be judged by its warranty service.... if you actually intend to make use of the warranty. I would be unlikely to send any scope which cost less than a hundred bucks back for a warranty repair, I would toss it, and walk away.
To me, a warranty means a few things beyond simple replacement. It means a manufacturer tried to make the product well enough that they will not face an onslaught of expensive returns. It also frequently means the company is committed to re-tooling production to modify their product line when a congenital fault is discovered in the returned products. I was associated with a company which had an unlimited lifetime warranty on their products. After seeing the same failure many times under warranty repair, to keep from bleeding costs, they redesigned their products, retooled, and eliminated the problem. Everyone wins in this scenario, the manufacturer faces less (costly) warranty actions, and the customer ends up with a product which is progressively more reliable. Perhaps my only criticism of the video is, many manufacturers only warranty to the original purchaser, as a product can be re-sold over decades through private sales. Most people eventually retire b-grade scopes, as they move on to higher grade scopes. I certainly have a graveyard of "placeholder" scopes which once rested on airguns. Many producers of b-grade scopes count on the fact that most of their products will be replaced within a decade (or less). This is part of their warranty "cost" calculations.
I think JoeWayneRay was at first pleased with what he saw, until he had a failure to adjust back to ten meters. What curdled the whole deal was the lack of gracious customer support. I have a BSA scope which is rather good (within it's price range). They make a lot of value priced scopes which are feature rich with "decently coated" glass. This is not to say they are absolutely top notch, but rather, for their price range they are normally darn good. As always, if you jump up to SWFA prices, you get better glass. And on other brands you can get similar features with better glass, albeit at double or triple the cost. They often do specialty runs for retailers, such as MidwayUSA. The product will sell for a while, and then go into a heavy price reduction on closeout. I picked up my BSA scope under closeout for a paltry $89, and am pretty happy with it. I have a basic mantra
"never buy more scope than your air rifle is accurate". This is why you will never find a Leupold scope on any of my Benjamin springers, instead you will find a UTG scope. A BSA scope is currently sitting on my Benjamin Maximus, and to be honest, it is a bit "overscoped". But the price was right ($89) in closeout. Link..
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/962234/bsa-tactical-mil-dot-rifle-scope-30mm-tube-6-24x-44mm-side-focus-glass-etched-mil-dot-reticle-matte
I think JoeWayneRay has the right of it. A scope *can* be judged by its warranty service.... if you actually intend to make use of the warranty. I would be unlikely to send any scope which cost less than a hundred bucks back for a warranty repair, I would toss it, and walk away.
To me, a warranty means a few things beyond simple replacement. It means a manufacturer tried to make the product well enough that they will not face an onslaught of expensive returns. It also frequently means the company is committed to re-tooling production to modify their product line when a congenital fault is discovered in the returned products. I was associated with a company which had an unlimited lifetime warranty on their products. After seeing the same failure many times under warranty repair, to keep from bleeding costs, they redesigned their products, retooled, and eliminated the problem. Everyone wins in this scenario, the manufacturer faces less (costly) warranty actions, and the customer ends up with a product which is progressively more reliable. Perhaps my only criticism of the video is, many manufacturers only warranty to the original purchaser, as a product can be re-sold over decades through private sales. Most people eventually retire b-grade scopes, as they move on to higher grade scopes. I certainly have a graveyard of "placeholder" scopes which once rested on airguns. Many producers of b-grade scopes count on the fact that most of their products will be replaced within a decade (or less). This is part of their warranty "cost" calculations.
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