Broke Red Wolf?

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    RBAZ
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    was shooting this morning with my RW 22hp everything going good until I loaded a pellet, pressed the trigger and nothing happened. Gun has air and battery is charged, display shows air and power but rifle is dead. Any ideas?

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    Tominco
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    No offense but, turn the safety off? Also, I've had to "wake the rifle up" quite a few times. I'll do just what you described with the same result and simply cycle the bolt again. 

    Tom

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    JCD
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    I wouldn't risk your warranty. The electronics (if thats the problem) can get expensive. It's worth a call to AOA tomorrow. I had an out of warranty airwolf go south 5ish years ago and shipping both ways and the new board was $500 plus. The new electronics only lasted a month but that was the end of the story for me. 

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    JCD

    I wouldn't risk your warranty. The electronics (if thats the problem) can get expensive. It's worth a call to AOA tomorrow. I had an out of warranty airwolf go south 5ish years ago and shipping both ways and the new board was $500 plus. The new electronics only lasted a month but that was the end of the story for me. 

    I can't follow your logic here, how did we go from the OP's post to warranty on an obsolete Daystate gun?

    As Tom said the sleep timer can be a pain sometimes!

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    JCD
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    First, the airwolf wasn't an obsolete gun 5 years ago but even at that time it was out of the 1 year warranty that existed then. Second, the airwolf story was about potential COST. And my advise was to not do anything the would risk the warranty being denied… Does that help?

     

    If RBAZ needs to wake up the rifle, all good. If something is really wrong, I'd hate to see him that much out of pocket after trying internet advise, at least not without calling the warranty center (AOA) first.

     

    And to round this out… the 'sleep timer' is ultimately why I sold my redwolf but that's not relevant here.

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    RBAZ
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    Tried waking it, cycleing safety and bolt, nothing. Leaving town tomorrow but when I get back l will call AOA, good thing is they are local.

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    bubblerboy64
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    I’d at least recharge the battery and check the connections 

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    hawkeye69
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    My advice too is to check the battery connections and make certain that it's fully charged. Short of that, it's call for warranty.

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    elh0102
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    The only time mine did that was when I was adjusting the trigger. If the "second stage" pressure adjustment is just a little off, the rifle won't fire.

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    marflow
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    I have a question, for someone that is looking from the outside in, why are you buying these electronic trigger  rifles if they have even a certain amount of bad habits or is it just the brand or it something else

    I do have one, a FWB 90

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    bubblerboy64
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    They are SWEET guns.  No cocking effort. Fabulous trigger . Beautiful to look at and handle accurate.  I’ve had no problems   

    Expensive ? Yes so are the other top tier guns 

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    elh0102
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    marflow

    I have a question, for someone that is looking from the outside in, why are you buying these electronic trigger  rifles if they have even a certain amount of bad habits or is it just the brand or it something else

    I do have one, a FWB 90

    The trigger is only a small part of the electronic rifle. The entire operating system is electronically controlled, no spring, no hammer. Once you accept the control of electronic circuitry (just like your car), there is, I believe, actually less to go wrong. Overall, I believe the Red Wolf, and its predecessors, have proven to be very reliable. Why do folks buy them? I can only answer for myself. I fine the technology fascinating, With just the selection of another program, you have the equivalent of what would take the re-tuning of a mechanical rifle. And, without the slam-bang operation of a spring and hammer, the operating cycle is eerily smooth and quiet. It's fun. 

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    Bitey
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    elh0102

    The trigger is only a small part of the electronic rifle. The entire operating system is electronically controlled, no spring, no hammer. Once you accept the control of electronic circuitry (just like your car), there is, I believe, actually less to go wrong. Overall, I believe the Red Wolf, and its predecessors, have proven to be very reliable. Why do folks buy them? I can only answer for myself. I fine the technology fascinating, With just the selection of another program, you have the equivalent of what would take the re-tuning of a mechanical rifle. And, without the slam-bang operation of a spring and hammer, the operating cycle is eerily smooth and quiet. It's fun. 

    Are you sure there's no hammer or spring?

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    marflow

    I have a question, for someone that is looking from the outside in, why are you buying these electronic trigger  rifles if they have even a certain amount of bad habits or is it just the brand or it something else

    I do have one, a FWB 90

    Do you have a starter handle on your car?

    Do you light your house with candles?

    All mechanical and electronic devices are fallible, having the latest and greatest "very-very" occasionally results in an issue, I am sure AOA will sort it out without a hiccup!

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    Tominco
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    elh0102

    The only time mine did that was when I was adjusting the trigger. If the "second stage" pressure adjustment is just a little off, the rifle won't fire.

    Thanks for sharing that. I haven't adjusted my trigger but, it's good to know that there's a limit.

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    Arzrover
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    Another thing to try is see whether you can cycle through the power levels.  If you can do that, trigger and safety are functional.

    Bob

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    Airgun Advisor
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    Could it be in magazine mode vs single shot tray? I have had that happen too.

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    elh0102
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    elh0102

    The trigger is only a small part of the electronic rifle. The entire operating system is electronically controlled, no spring, no hammer. Once you accept the control of electronic circuitry (just like your car), there is, I believe, actually less to go wrong. Overall, I believe the Red Wolf, and its predecessors, have proven to be very reliable. Why do folks buy them? I can only answer for myself. I fine the technology fascinating, With just the selection of another program, you have the equivalent of what would take the re-tuning of a mechanical rifle. And, without the slam-bang operation of a spring and hammer, the operating cycle is eerily smooth and quiet. It's fun. 

    Are you sure there's no hammer or spring?

    Assuming you are referring to a totally electronic rifle as the Red Wolf, I'm totally sure. A microprocessor controls the firing cycle.  Go to the Daystate site and pull up the schematic drawing of the rifle and parts. 

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    elh0102

    Are you sure there's no hammer or spring?

    Assuming you are referring to a totally electronic rifle as the Red Wolf, I'm totally sure. A microprocessor controls the firing cycle.  Go to the Daystate site and pull up the schematic drawing of the rifle and parts. 

    http://airgunnationforum.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/1536337278_20456804655b92a57ecfb596.68783492_Red%20Wolf%20Parts%20Diagrams%20and%20Parts%20Lists.pdf

    6 valve seal
    7 valve stem
    8 stem spring

    20 solenoid front spacer D3SOLFRSP1 ?? LAV. SOLENOID 1
    21 solenoid cage D3SOLCAG01 ?? LAV. SOLENOID 1
    22 Solenoid (Black Plastic.) PURE HP D3S0LPUREHP UK CUSTOM ALLEL 1
    23 solenoid spacer D3S0LSPAC01 ?? LAV. SOLENOID 1
    24 solenoid spring D3SOLSPRICD IT MOLLA ALL.EL 1
    25 solenoid striker hammer D3SOSTHAMXX UK LAV. 1
    26 wave spring washer
    27 rubber shock absorber

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    kaylaindy
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    ….so….I wonder what the problem will be. I'm dying to know! -Nate 

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