Started experimenting with several slugs to see them in action. several takeaways , this is in 25 cal only. on average , if I tried going with lighter weight , the slug was correspondingly shorter in length. but that made the slug subject to "tumbling" as I tried to load from magazine to breech. so heavier weights are the general application. then there are differences even with the same brand and weight , but have different bases. cup , dish , flat , and hollow base or deep skirt , lastly hybrids. Lastly , then there is different diameters in the caliber that also can have great effect on performance. But when you do find that one projectile that does it all , it's a thing of beauty!