Best PCP for long range accuracy.

Looking for some suggestions for PCP’s with the best long range accuracy. I have been in the pcp world for some years now and have a few pcp’s including an FX dreamline 22. I’m looking for my next one and I want long range accuracy and shot count. I know ‘Long range accuracy” is a broad statement but I’m after 150 to 200 yard shots with accuracy for putting down squirrels and rabbits etc. Looking for input from the group.
 
I’d consider my Crown a long range gun. Not sure I’d shoot pests out to 200 unless I was shooting slugs. I really don’t like taking shots at pests unless I can consistently group on paper within said pests vitals at that given range. I’d say 3” for a rabbit and 2” for a squirrel. You may be hard pressed to get a gun to do that at 200 consistently without some serious tuning and practice. But my word is not gospel. I can consistently shoot 2” at 100yds with my crown and sub 1” on a good day. I can hit pop cans at 200 once in a while, but I’m not the best shot either.
 
Most hi end PCP's are equal as far as accuracy at longer ranges out of the box in my opinion the rest is up to the shooter. At ranges beyond 100yards you might be wanting a slug gun when considering outdoor environments. Personally I'd lean towards Matt Dubbers (Impact) for that purpose, Utah air guns sells them allready set up to shoot long distances.
 
FX Impact from Ken Hicks in 22 tuned specifically to shoot NSA 23-28gr.

If you are lucky and have perfect conditions easily sub moa with occasional sub half inch at 100 is possible and minute of bottom part of soda can or better at 200 yards.

Buy the Corbin swage press and dies and prep tools and lead wire if you want consistent 1/2 or better at 100 yards and shoot custom (make your own) 22-23gr NSA type slugs (same dies they use that you can adjust for any weight in between). You will get significantly better accuracy results making your own rather than buying commercially made slugs like what the long range shooting Youtubers would probably never show you.

You are to experiment and make perfect slugs specifically to your guns liking and not limited to commercially manufactured and sold weights and designs.

If you just can be content with average 1 moa or 3/4 moa with occasional 1/2 at 100 yards then NSA could be good enough for you just try them all to see which gives you the best but you won't get consistent 1/2 and better smaller groups at 100 unless you make your own in a custom weight specific to your guns liking.

Set it up only for long range slug shooting and shoot nothing else from it and never ever touch any adjustment nor remove the barrel liner after its set perfect.

The only other guns that can do 1/2 a better than norm Sumatra 22 and 25 caliber or custom 257 Air Force based gun or if you get lucky to find an EdGun R3 in 25 or an Original single shot Matador Standard with a hand picked barrel or R3M lottery winners (average good norm vs phenomenal) in 22 to shoot 18.1gr JSBs straight out of the tins from good a lot batch.

Most other decent guns expect just over 1 moa to 1.5 moa at 100 yards average. Probably consistent 1.25 average by most.
 
A better approach is identifying what the best projectile is for long range accuracy. If you live in a vacuum, the options are vast. For the rest of us that live in the real world, the field narrows.

The is a vast difference between 150y and 200y (like day and night IME). For a 200y projectile that I can shoot in any condition (without specifying energy requirements for hunting), I would want a BC of at least 0.14 for consistent accuracy. If winds aren't a factor, the BC requirements drop significantly (I would still want at least a >=0.10).

From there, I would want to find the correct barrel to shoot the chosen projecile(s) with, which also introduces the rifle. The beefier the barrel, the better harmonics are managed. You still want to focus on providing the minimum hammer and air energies needed for hitting the target downrange. You will find that there are major tradeoffs for shooting fast and flat vs. slower in more if a rainbow trajectory. There is always going to be greater control through the shot cycles with less recoil and harmonics.
 
The Matt Dubber 22 impact is one I have been considering. 2k to 3k is my budget (not including scope) I know I will need the BC of slugs to get the distance and retain FPE down range. I guess my question is more geared towards what are the best slug pcp’s currently out there. I haven’t had the time to follow the latest and greatest as much as I used to. I’m familiar with the Texan platform and I do like the 25 cal overall for long range varmint hunting in my powder burners but I’ve heard of some pretty bad grouping out of the Texan. As I said though I haven’t been following things as closely online.

Ive heard good things about the FX hybrid slugs but haven’t had a chance to see how they perform Long range. I realize that a 200 yard shot on a ground squirrel with a pcp is not easily repeatable and I don’t anticipate taking a lot of shots at that distance but I want to be confident out to 150.
 
.17 HMR or .204 Ruger. Shooting animals at those ranges with a slow moving Air Rifle projectile brings in too many variables. 1 inch drift per 1MPH of crosswind @100 yds is a complete guess. You might make that shot, but you probably won't. Air rifles are great, but past 100 yards at an animal is irresponsible. These Air rifles are outstanding, but with limitations. Plus, a Powder burner that can make that shot will only cost a couple of hundred bucks. 
 
Looking for some suggestions for PCP’s with the best long range accuracy.......I’m after 150 to 200 yard shots with accuracy for putting down squirrels and rabbits etc. Looking for input from the group.

I'm not going to recommend the best because that term is so subjective. "The best" means something different to everyone. 

I do have a few relevant comments though, mostly because I'm seeing recommendations like the Texan, FX Impadubb (or maybe FX Impact-ER would be better?) and .17HMR and. 204s. 

For rabbits and squirrels that kind of power is completely unnecessary. 

I picked up a gun a little while back that really likes the JSB 18.1s at around 940-950fps. Yes that's only 35fpe and yes that's faster than conventional knowledge says they should shoot. BUT I've been having really good results with it at extremely (for a pellet) long range.

Just today I killed 8 or 10 pdogs with it from 47-152 yards. The three longest shots were 152, 110, and 98 yards. All three of those were lasered, Strelok consulted, clicked into the scope and one shot one dead pdog. All three of those happened to be in really dry dusty areas where I could see what the pellets did after passing through. All three skipped across the ground a couple times after killing the dog. I was surprised at the longest one still skipping but it dang sure did. 

About two weeks ago I got two at 185 yards with the same gun and power level. That day it took a couple shots to walk it in for the first one but had it all figured out for #2 that was right there close.

Anyway, just trying to make the point that if you're talking rabbits and squirrels, you don't necessarily need to go straight to the big stuff. Your air consumption and pellet budget will thank you. And there's the reduced recoil down in the reasonable power level area that makes it easier to hit what you're after. 
 
Looking for some suggestions for PCP’s with the best long range accuracy.......I’m after 150 to 200 yard shots with accuracy for putting down squirrels and rabbits etc. Looking for input from the group.

I'm not going to recommend the best because that term is so subjective. "The best" means something different to everyone. 

I do have a few relevant comments though, mostly because I'm seeing recommendations like the Texan, FX Impadubb (or maybe FX Impact-ER would be better?) and .17HMR and. 204s. 

For rabbits and squirrels that kind of power is completely unnecessary. 

I picked up a gun a little while back that really likes the JSB 18.1s at around 940-950fps. Yes that's only 35fpe and yes that's faster than conventional knowledge says they should shoot. BUT I've been having really good results with it at extremely (for a pellet) long range.

Just today I killed 8 or 10 pdogs with it from 47-152 yards. The three longest shots were 152, 110, and 98 yards. All three of those were lasered, Strelok consulted, clicked into the scope and one shot one dead pdog. All three of those happened to be in really dry dusty areas where I could see what the pellets did after passing through. All three skipped across the ground a couple times after killing the dog. I was surprised at the longest one still skipping but it dang sure did. 

About two weeks ago I got two at 185 yards with the same gun and power level. That day it took a couple shots to walk it in for the first one but had it all figured out for #2 that was right there close.

Anyway, just trying to make the point that if you're talking rabbits and squirrels, you don't necessarily need to go straight to the big stuff. Your air consumption and pellet budget will thank you. And there's the reduced recoil down in the reasonable power level area that makes it easier to hit what you're after.


Yes sir. I scored squirrels at 85 yards with my .177 Dreamtac at 840 fps shooting 13.43 Monsters.
 
The Matt Dubber 22 impact is one I have been considering. 2k to 3k is my budget (not including scope) I know I will need the BC of slugs to get the distance and retain FPE down range. I guess my question is more geared towards what are the best slug pcp’s currently out there. I haven’t had the time to follow the latest and greatest as much as I used to. I’m familiar with the Texan platform and I do like the 25 cal overall for long range varmint hunting in my powder burners but I’ve heard of some pretty bad grouping out of the Texan. As I said though I haven’t been following things as closely online.

Ive heard good things about the FX hybrid slugs but haven’t had a chance to see how they perform Long range. I realize that a 200 yard shot on a ground squirrel with a pcp is not easily repeatable and I don’t anticipate taking a lot of shots at that distance but I want to be confident out to 150.


matt dubber edition impact will be carefully tuned and tested by Utah air, it is a custom gun. fortunately with a little tuning around anyone who is a little tech savvy can get an impact to shoot 1 MOA at 100 yards. My impact .22 With superior liner can sling nsa slugs to 150 yards with good confidence of hitting a soda can which is enough for small game hunting. You should be looking at 32 grain slugs if you want to go out to 200 with a little wind. BC on NSA .22 32 grain slug is 0.1 or get .25 caliber and their 36 grain slugs are at 0.12 which is pretty nuts. 


if I were you I would just buy a 700mm impact(should come with superior liner now) in .25 caliber and shoot 34-36 grain slugs to 200 yards with ease! Might need to upgrade to superior heavy or slug liner A when you go pass 33 grain slugs. Heavier slugs are longer and need more spin to stabilize. 
 
I'm used to seeing videos bragging about 100 yards, which does seem plenty braggable indeed, but this thread is incredibly interesting in talking about greater distances and the ways to get them. There is divergence of opinion, but it's damn interesting to say the least. And I had no idea Drubber had linked up with FX to make his own "branded" version of an FX. I just new he was branding slugs.

This hobby is surprisingly deep and is moving so fast that trying to grasp the breadth and depth of it is very challenging for the beginner, especially a desk jockey, old-time iron-sights guy like me. But wow the pace sure keeps things interesting.
 
Forget traditional airgun smallbore calibers where twist rate alone is limiting ur options for long range shooting. Sub 0.1bc just wont do it with subsonic speeds.. Ur drifts in wind will be massive at 100y and impossible at 200y making pesting more or less just pure animal torturing and cruelty and you end up with too many badly wounded animals that get away.

For long range shooting I would recomend 224, 257 or 308+ slugshooter and highly would recomend 257texan. Now if we speak about longrange pesting/hunting I would advice you to get proper centerfire rifle and forget airguns and be ethical hunter.