Begginners Section, HELP!!!

If you want to stay with a springer get an Underlever or Sidelever. A PCP is a very good choice with a Benjamin Maximus or Discovery with a pump. Get a good mid priced scope. Then have a good time.

As with many things, "spend once, cry once" is good advice when choosing an airgun.

I'm partial to springers and would suggest the RWS 34, Beeman R9 or Beeman R7. 

For PCPs, it is hard to beat the value and performance of the Benjamin Discovery. 

Good luck choosing.

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Sounds like the scope may be moving-either in the rings or on the gun. Make some pencil marks and observe to see if the scope or mounts are moving. Check to see that the stock screws are snug. I second the RWS 34, Beeman R9/Hw95 or HW30/Beeman R7. The Beeman and HW are the same guns but branded differently, usually the Beeman branded guns do not come with open sights. Bear in mind that the less powerful guns are easier to shoot accurately, with the R7/HW30 being the easiest and RWS 34 and R9 being a good balance between power and shootability. Undelevers are nice, but weigh about a pound more than a comparable breakbarrel as well as being more expensive. I myself favor a breakbarrel for hunting/pesting because I can reload faster in the event a follow up shot is needed. Hard to beat the special on the HW95 that AOA has going, $315 last time I looked.

I guess I would recommend the Maximus also. You can get 20-25% discount using the AGNATION code thru this forum. I have a number of springers and they can be harder to shoot. And you will have to be sure and get a springer rated scope, which can cost more. Crosman sells a discovery and Maximus package that is the rifle and pump and maybe even a scope?

As you try and decide what to buy, look at the scope threads on this forum. Which might let you know how each type, PCP & springer can be to scope?

I have RWS 34P & 48 in 22 cal. Love them both. Very accurate to at least 40 yds,. Read a lot about trigger control & follow through. JSB 15.9 work best in both for me. The 34 is most fun to shoot, trigger to6 is very good can be adjusted to around 2 lbs. I have Hatsan 95. It is a good gun but not up to a RWS in quality. Leapers, utg scope 3-9x40 ao works well.

The Walther lgu is totally in a diffrent ball park than anything Hatsan.

The lgu is smoother and way easier to shot than any hatsan spring rifle. Better build quality and much better internals. As close to pcp as you can get with a springer. Theres a few good youtube reviews on it. Not a mad powerhouse but youll hit what you aim at. A bit to heavy for my taste but you cant get it all. 

"Deja"The lgu is smoother and way easier to shot than any hatsan spring rifle. Better build quality and much better internals. As close to pcp as you can get with a springer. Theres a few good youtube reviews on it. Not a mad powerhouse but youll hit what you aim at. A bit to heavy for my taste but you cant get it all.

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What do you want to do with it and what's your budget? Since you're leaning toward .22, I'm guessing some pesting and small game hunting are in your future? .177 is big enough for up to squirrel and rabbit sized game, and shoots flatter. Bigger than rabbit, and you'll want .20 or .22.

Seems like you're looking in the $200-300 range.

I just sent you an offer via Personal Message for a good starter rifle, quality scope & mounts, with a nice aftermarket trigger. Less money than you'd pay for a new one with inferior optics and trigger.

Look here at the HW95-great gun and great price! http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/?utm_source=holdoverforum&utm_medium=ad&utm_campaign=smallAOA Click on "specials" and scroll down
Not a 50 yard gun till you practice, but one solid accurate springer!

Arizona also has a diana black 48 in 22 for i thimk 350 smooth shooter to start with imho...i love mine. 

I was there last year starting airgun struggling what I should get.
Started with a cheap springer and now shooting 177 springers and 22 pcps.
I like the idea of springers not depending air source but the dark side (pcp) has drowned me bad. Still shooting springers though.
My only 2 cents here and you should not buy too many cheap guns and accessories because the accuracy dont come cheap and you will seek for more accuracy once started. Same for scopes and rings. Personally I like hawke scopes and bkl rings. Know your limit and get a decent airgun as others recommendations. Otherwise you will get piled up and lost quickly.
This hobby is so addictive.
Good luck.

"YMSB89"Hello guys, my name is Laramie and I've been poking around this forum for the past couple days and have decided to take the plunge and join. I have been shooting my roommates Gamo Buckmaster with a cheap center point scope and am absolutely addicted. However I am getting frustrated because this gun will shoot great groups for like 5 shots then the scope needs to be adjusted. I need advice on what would be a good Air Gun for someone trying to get into Air Guns! I am partial to the idea of a fixed barrel air gun however I am a newbie and don't know anything so, please help. Again I am a newbie, lol.

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I may get some negative responses from this post, but I am fairly new to the sport. Been into it for maybe 10 months so far. I have 3 break barrel rifles so far. I have under $400 in the rifles themselves total, and maybe $175-200 in 2 scopes, speed loaders.

The 3 rifles I have are great for pesting, and plinking. I have a Crosman NPS TR77 with Hammers 3x9x40AO scope that loves Crosman Ultra Magnum 10.5 Gr pellets, a Crosman Nitro Venom Dusk 22 with Hawke Low Scope Mounts, and Hammers 3x9x32AO scope (not installed yet) that loves Crosman Premier Hollow Points 14,3Gr pellets, and my first ever break barrel is my Ruger Blackhawk Elite 177 with stock scope, which loves Crosman Premier Hollow Points. I can shoot fairly tight groups with them all at my intended ranges of 15-40 yards. The Crosmans I reworked the triggers on, the Ruger is stock. If I was gonna spend $500 on something I would save up for a nice PCP or just put 500 down on the purchase and pay the rest on my credit card monthly. Alas, I am a cheapo and have many hobbies so I opted to try out cheap stuff and see if I enjoyed the sport, and sure enough I did. Yet I still like my cheapo rifles.Good luck in your endeavors, and glad to have ya here!

I loaned my buddy my Ruger and he wanted to buy it the next day.....I couldnt bring myself to let it go, so its sticking around. They all take love and work to make em accurate.

This is my first two " big boy " Airguns . A Benjamin Nitro Piston ( paint job optional) and my HW 30 . Both were a blast to shoot . Best as I recall the NP was about 150$ at Walmart, the HW30 close to 275$ or so . The downside to the NP was it was hard on scopes !!!

Lots of nice springers out there. I have an HW50s (new in 2015 from AOA) and an RWS 34. Both are great guns. Plenty of power and accuracy! Good luck.

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