Barrel cleaning

You're correct, aussiegav, there has indeed been much talk lately here on AGN about barrel cleaning. And I've listened and watched and read very carefully in order to learn as much as possible and to make sure I get the best information and barrel cleaning equipment and supplies for my airguns. But this is the first mention I've ever seen here at AGN (or anywhere else for that matter) about the VFG barrel cleaning system.

This VFG barrel cleaning system seems to be far more capable of removing grime and fouling and corrosion from deep within the grooves of rifled airgun barrels than any other system that I've seen. The photo evidence of the heavy grime that this VFG system removed, even after a pull-through system was used, was impressive to me. I'm very surprised that no one else has commented on this. At any rate, I was ready to order the pull-through Patch Worm system that is so highly regarded here. But I think I'll hold off until I give this VFG system a closer look. Thanks for posting this.

I can vouch for the VFG system of cleaning having used it for several years and been very happy with it. As a side note I also have the patch work cleaning kit. You can take the VFG cleaning felts and there blue cleaning paste and pull it through the barrel with the patch worm cord. This isn’t as good as using the rod but does a good job if you not want to remove the barrel to clean it. 
The best way to buy there felts is to look on eBay for the bulk 500 felt packs. They are so much cheaper to buy this way. 
The paste lasts forever. You only need a tiny bit on the felts to get a good result
They are great products. Thanks for sharing Gav. 

"AirSupply"I can vouch for the VFG system of cleaning having used it for several years and been very happy with it. As a side note I also have the patch work cleaning kit. You can take the VFG cleaning felts and there blue cleaning paste and pull it through the barrel with the patch worm cord. This isn’t as good as using the rod but does a good job if you not want to remove the barrel to clean it. 
The best way to buy there felts is to look on eBay for the bulk 500 felt packs. They are so much cheaper to buy this way. 
The paste lasts forever. You only need a tiny bit on the felts to get a good result
They are great products. Thanks for sharing Gav. 

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how often do you use that system and on what type of gun, I am thinking the higher fps to more prone to needing it?? 

Well, just spent about 15 minutes looking for places to get this stuff. No one has it. And, I can't find it as a kit either. Someone mind providing a link?

Crusher

In the U.S. Champions choice normally carries them but in .22 mostly?
UK amazon site for felts:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/VFG-Cleaning-Pellets-Air-Rifle/dp/B01M03KHT9

I know a couple of BR shooters that like these for cleaning.

John


edit: just gooled them, brownells, champions choice, others easily found.

"davemac18"

"AirSupply"I can vouch for the VFG system of cleaning having used it for several years and been very happy with it. As a side note I also have the patch work cleaning kit. You can take the VFG cleaning felts and there blue cleaning paste and pull it through the barrel with the patch worm cord. This isn’t as good as using the rod but does a good job if you not want to remove the barrel to clean it. 
The best way to buy there felts is to look on eBay for the bulk 500 felt packs. They are so much cheaper to buy this way. 
The paste lasts forever. You only need a tiny bit on the felts to get a good result
They are great products. Thanks for sharing Gav. 

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how often do you use that system and on what type of gun, I am thinking the higher fps to more prone to needing it??

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I pull the VFG felts through around every 100shots or so. It’s a LW polygon barrel with choke. Shooting .25 jsb King Heavies at 890ish fps. I copied the following from Yarrah I’m sure he won’t mind if I repost it. 
He was asked the same question. 


Depends on the degree of accuracy you accept or expect.
All the top benchrest competitors I shoot with, to World Ch., level, clean their barrels, most after each card (25 shots to count plus sighters). Some actually shoot a couple of felt pellets through during a card after 15 shots or so. … If the barrels are kept clean there is generally no need to shoot a warm-up pellet unless cleaning oil is left in the barrel.
Both pull-thoughs and rods with patches, can be seen in use at serious competitions. They do a more thorough job than felt pellets but are not practical for use during a card at the bench.

Providing that clean high quality pellets are used, which have no loose lead or swarf/foil attached, the very low powered rifles, like R7s or Olympic 10 m rifles, probably need less cleaning and use of felt pellets .

For those who don’t shoot benchrest, or who don’t chase moa at 100 yd or further, then other shooting variables, hold, trigger control etc, would obscure the difference that fastidious cleaning may induce. … To each his own. Coffee can plinkers and most short range hunters may not notice any benefit.
Kind regards, Harry. 

I am on the fence about barrel cleaning. I think, in most cases, folks put too much stock in doing so because they think it is necessary—and it may be for Field Trial shooters et. al. for extreme accuracy. Otherwise? May be not if the cleaning damages the barrel. I think we've all heard about that issue, especially with respect to pump guns which use brass barrels. 

All said and done, I have about 7,500 rounds through my .25 caliber WAR Cobra, which has never been cleaned, yet it still shoots better than 1/2 inch groups at 50 yards. 

"spysir"In the U.S. Champions choice normally carries them but in .22 mostly?
UK amazon site for felts:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/VFG-Cleaning-Pellets-Air-Rifle/dp/B01M03KHT9
I know a couple of BR shooters that like these for cleaning.
John
edit: just gooled them, brownells, champions choice, others easily found.

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Actually you didn't understand what I said. I said I was looking for the KIT. I found the pellets in 2 seconds. I'm looking for the VFG cleaning compound. Everyone is out of it. And I'm looking for the swedge tip in 25.
The person in the previous link with all the pictures mentions a VFG KIT with the compound, the pellets, the rod and the lubricant. That is what I was looking for. I don't see that anyone offers it.

Crusher