Aztec Emerald - Runs out of adjustment when zeroing

Hey all, 

Fairly new to this whole hobby, but I bought an FX Impact with an Aztec Emerald on it. Great scope and seems to work well, but I have one big issue. I zeroed it at 25 yards in the backyard and I can shoot a full magazine through a single hole once I zeroed it, but there is no more adjustment left on the down side. It seems to have hit a limit and I don't want to force it as I know that can kill the spring etc. 

My question is, does that seem normal? Should I be worried that something is wrong with the scope or the gun? I thought about just buying some FX No Limit rings and then adjust so I have a zero that I can go up and down from, but wanted to check and see what the experts think before I buy a bandaid. Maybe this is totally normal, but if I needed to zero any further down I would be screwed.

Thanks.
 
I had the same problem love the scope but could not understand why I run out of clicks as well. I had it on my inpact and it was fine with fx no limits rings but got a daystate Russo red wolf and at 25 yards 50yards and 100yards lucky to hit paper?? 

I called aoa and they told me to get lo limit rings I told them I have them so I had to sell my Aztec because I liked it on my inpact but could not use it in my red wolf don't know how this happenens but you are not the only person who has this problem. John
 
You shouldn’t need the no limits rings for 100 yards or less. My guess is that the scope was already adjusted down pretty far when it was zeroed and so you have hardly any slack left.

Try to “optically zero” the scope and that should get you back to the center of the adjustment range and then zero again at 25 and see if that helps. You can google the procedure or check out @Tominco’s YouTube channel (Tomcat Airguns). He’s got a good video on how to do it.
 
Hey all, 

Fairly new to this whole hobby, but I bought an FX Impact with an Aztec Emerald on it. Great scope and seems to work well, but I have one big issue. I zeroed it at 25 yards in the backyard and I can shoot a full magazine through a single hole once I zeroed it, but there is no more adjustment left on the down side. It seems to have hit a limit and I don't want to force it as I know that can kill the spring etc. 

My question is, does that seem normal? Should I be worried that something is wrong with the scope or the gun? I thought about just buying some FX No Limit rings and then adjust so I have a zero that I can go up and down from, but wanted to check and see what the experts think before I buy a bandaid. Maybe this is totally normal, but if I needed to zero any further down I would be screwed.

Thanks.

Have you tried shimming your scope? I use a couple pieces of tape, some use a piece of soda can cut to fit. Try shimming before spending $100 bucks on rings
 
I don’t fret over shimming a scope on a PCP ...the lack of recoil does not require the rings to be tightened so much that the tube is at risk of being deformed.

Not so with springers, and the presence of shims seems to make the scope more apt to slip under the harsh two-way recoil.

However if you are concerned about it, the next most economical solution is a drooper adapter along these lines 

https://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/UTG_Drooper_Scope_Rail_11mm_to_Weaver_Adapter_Compensates_for_Droop_Stops_Scope_Shift/4191


 
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You are correct if you don't over tighten the rings you're probably not going to hurt anything but then again how much is too much. I've done it. Some say better to shim under the base but I've never understood how that would eliminate the possible bind on the scope tube. That droop rail is a good deal. Only issue there is it's elevating the scope which may or may not be a problem. And it adds another element to the scope mounting process. Making things clean and neat directs me to ether another scope or the adjustable rings. Several options all of which work.



You are correct about the springers. I've played with a couple of those and keeping a scope in place and "alive" is a challenge. One of the BIG reasons I and many others have gone PCP. Keeping a scope on a springer probably wouldn't be bad if you have a base that screwed down rather then trying to tighten the heck out of a dove tail. Just never worked all that well for me. Bout the time I had the gun sighted in ( or thought I did) the scope would be loose. Much more of a problem on the guns that shoot 1000 ft per then the lighter stuff.
 
Well, I took the whole scope off and he had tape under both of the rings. I took the tape off so I could start from zero, cleaned the scope mount points, and then flipped the rings around 180 degrees (front one is now back and QD is on other side. I don't know if this is a problem or if the rings have to go on a certain way, but tightened the scope on a tiny bit further forward from where it was (wanted to do that anyway).... low and behold I can zero at 25-30 yards without coming near the limits of the turrets.

Thanks for all the feedback. Hoping I am good now. The tape might have been on there to stop the scope from moving as its a .30 cal and has more of a kick than I am used to. Either way, I think I am better off than I was before and will skip the 70 dollar FX No-Limit rings... if I can cancel the order... lol.
 
As others have stated, first thing I do when I get a scope is optically center the scope then use my rings to get the elevation adjustment. I have complete travel of elevation and windage. to use after my zero. I am using an aztec emerald 5.5-25. Tracks great and the reticle is nice and fine. I would take all the proper steps in setting up a scope before sending it back. If all fails and you cant get it to work then send it in im sure they will replace it for you. 
 
Something I always do to check and avoid the problem you had is to put the rings on the rail, one forward and one facing the other way. Then snug them down and look inside. The places where the scope rests should line up and it should make no difference which direction you turn them. They should line up. If not, you are going to have issues like you experienced.

Crusher


 
Many scopes don't have enough travel in the turrets to keep pace with airguns these days. Only scope that you don't need a adjustable rings or a 20 moa riser for is a SWFA. They have like 120moa built into the scope. I beilve some airgun manufacturers (example Edgun) are putting 20moa rails on their guns as standard. I don't believe FX does this since they sell their in-house no-limit rings.