Atn thermal

thats alot of money to put on anything with harsh recoil .. just sayin ..

I hear its hit or miss with the atn thermal for the cost I have been exploring other options. I just like the option for the abl on the atns.

They work good from what I’ve seen. I’ve had two different models.

I would recommend an AGM or Bering optics or Pulsar over an ATN in a heartbeat though. I sold my ATN Thor 4 and went with an AGM Rattler because it’s much smaller, lighter and has a better picture quality for the money.

I agree with acient sword. Check out the brands he mentioned and the latenightvision show on YouTube has some good info with comparisons and opinions.

How do you like the Rattler Ancient compaired to the ATN?

Much better picture quality and way lighter. I like it better for sure. The only thing I could complain about is battery life. Otherwise it’s no contest in my opinion.

I use the ThOR LT 160 3-6x on my AEA HP SS plus 30 cal. I like how it uses regular 30mm rings instead of a proprietary or ACOG style mount.

It's pretty good for a low quality sensor and being under a grand. I mainly use it for ratting in the backyard.

I do wish I had gone with the ThOR 4 1.25-5x. Better sensor, color mode, phone connectivity, and being able to record are great features for the extra money.

Im in the market for a thermal too.

POU ill be ratting 10-20 yards and hog hunt up to 100-150 yards.


Is it worth the difference between 320 vs 640. Do u see the difference? Its almost double the costs.

also since what i plan to shoot is two very distinct distances, should i go 1-5x or get a higher magnification? I have seen quite a few people that bought a 1-5x say if they had to do it again they would go higher magnification.

i was looking at the thor 4 in 320 bc it closest to my budget range.


but then i have now started to look at agm and iray. Nvision and some agm are way out of my price range.

Im in the market for a thermal too.

POU ill be ratting 10-20 yards and hog hunt up to 100-150 yards.


Is it worth the difference between 320 vs 640. Do u see the difference? Its almost double the costs.

also since what i plan to shoot is two very distinct distances, should i go 1-5x or get a higher magnification? I have seen quite a few people that bought a 1-5x say if they had to do it again they would go higher magnification.

i was looking at the thor 4 in 320 bc it closest to my budget range.


but then i have now started to look at agm and iray. Nvision and some agm are way out of my price range.

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I recommend going with the saying, "buy nice or buy twice." With my 160 sensor, I was able to see a squirrel at 140 yards during the day, but I spotted it with my naked eye first. If it were night time, I probably would've missed it unless I caught the movement. I would definitely like to upgrade myself.

I would go with a higher magnification for your 100+ yard applications. One of my buddies picked up a refurbed ThOR 4 384 4-8x for $2200 and he's pretty happy with it. The battery life and ergonomics are great if you like using your own rings.

I've been curious about the Bering Optics Hogster 2.3-4.6x19 since it's about $1500 and has all the features I want minus recording. My only issues with that are the sensor is not as great as a refurb ATN 1.25-5X, the batteries (CR123s), and the picatinny mount (might not get the eye relief I want with my magazine in the way).

Im in the market for a thermal too.

POU ill be ratting 10-20 yards and hog hunt up to 100-150 yards.


Is it worth the difference between 320 vs 640. Do u see the difference? Its almost double the costs.

also since what i plan to shoot is two very distinct distances, should i go 1-5x or get a higher magnification? I have seen quite a few people that bought a 1-5x say if they had to do it again they would go higher magnification.

i was looking at the thor 4 in 320 bc it closest to my budget range.


but then i have now started to look at agm and iray. Nvision and some agm are way out of my price range.

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If your shooting at close range then a high magnification is going to be hard to use, but I would say 150 yards is a long shot with a lower magnification. 100 yards is doable with some practice. If you’re hunting at night, you can tend to get a lot closer to pigs then you can in the day most of the time. 
I would love a 640 scope but I couldn’t justify the price difference. I tried the 160 ATN and ended up selling it and going with a 384 AGM Rattler. AGM does have a new 640 scope at under 4k. I wouldn’t personally buy another ATN Thermal because I have seen so many guys have problems with them, but the two I had were fine. Your mileage may vary. I like AGM and Bering for the price vs performance.

Bering and AGM have both introduced scopes that are 256 resolution now, as mentioned, in the $1250 to $1500 range. I bought the Rattler because of the great picture and built in recording for just at $2k. Wanted the Bering Hogster, but it’sa couple hundred dollars more and it didn’t have recoding built in.

how familar are you with AGM lineup?

I see everyone talks about the Rattler, but no one ever mentions their Python, Python Micro, Secutor. 

I think the secutor is about to be discontinue only due to the fact that it's on sale at AGM website. Python might be their best line bc u can get a 640 with a 75mm front objective.



They also a new Adder scope too

Well, I dropped about $1400 after tax and shipping on a ThOR 4 1.25-5x. It should be here tomorrow. Hopefully it's a worth while upgrade from my ThOR LT 160.