Athlon ETR FFP 4.5-30x56 mil inbound!!! - review to follow in the near future.

ETA - hey all, I posted photo's in my review of the ETR down in this thread a ways, go see em please!

I recently sold my two Athlon Midas TAC's, a 4-16 and a 6-24, so I ordered a bronze ETR to try out. Most of the reason is I wanted more magnification, the other motivation was this is supposed to be the highest quality scope on the market at it's price point. Also after I sell my S&B 3-20, I'm going to put this scope on a 6.5 Saum long range rifle, but for now I'm going to mount it on my 30 cal American Air Arms EVOL to do my review.

I thought I'd give a list of other Athlon scopes I've tried before. Of course I think only the Cronus, Ares, and TAC, could be used for comparison since they are closer in quality to the ETR in the Athlon line up so it'll be interesting for me to know how the ETR stacks up to those.

So here they are starting with Athlon brand scopes; 'Two Cronus 4.5-29x56's, one a pre BTR version,' 'five Athlon Ares BTR's, three Gen1 4.5-27x50's, also Gen2 version, and a Gen1 2.5-15x50,' ' three Midas TAC's', 'many Athlon Argos BTR 6-24x50's, all Gen1' 'and many Athlon Talos 4-14x44's'. 

You might have guessed by now that I'm an Athlon Optics fanboy, and that I'm affiliated with Co, that'd be true, BUT!!! I'm not employed by them. I guess I could be called an industry insider, or a friend of the owner of the Co. Be that as it may I'm honest about what I have to say about any scope I review, and this means not all I have to say about Athlon products, or certain aspects about each line, or even individual scopes as a unit, are positive, as you will see later in my review. You will get the truth, or at least what I think it is.

Other brands I've owned/own include S&B, USO, IOR, March, Nightforce, Vortex, Bushnell, B&L, Burris, Leupold, SWFA, Nikko, Falcon, Centerpoint, etc - many, I can't even think of them all. I've been into rifles and scopes for 45 years so.....

I have a bunch of friends with other brands that I've had the opportunity to play with which include Premier, Tangent Theta, Hensoldt, Zeiss, and Zero Compromise Optics. These are basically most of the best scopes money can buy.

Unfortunately since I'm going off memory on some of these optics, ones I don't own anymore, and the ones I've only used briefly, I can only relay my impressions about them. Like those aspects that remain in my memory as far as either likes or dislikes, so basically that's all I can use in a "sort of a" comparison.

Anyway I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas morning but in this case it's the brown UPS van! 

I'll put some pics up in a week or so.




 
Pretty sure I will but how much the future will tell?!

I was just using a Ares BTR 4.5-27x50 Gen2 on my Impact an hour ago. We were shooting groups at 25Yish and the scope would just barely focus in at 27x but I hardly ever shoot that close with it. My zero is 30Y and farther out it was great. We also shot at a triangle at 161Y but my Impact 25 cal is petering out with 33's by then. No problem seeing hits on the steel though.
 
Aloha steve123,

Looking forward to you review, I have a couple of athlons too but I am on the fence in buying the ETR or the Delta Stryker HD. Both scopes have similar specifications but the Stryker is about $400 more. I don’t know anyone who has the Stryker and you can’t trust everything you see on YouTube about that scope. Anyway can’t wait until your review. 


Aloha, Keone
 
If you are waiting on the brown ups van then it will arrive broken. 

i wouldn’t let United parcel smashers ship a used pair of shoes. Unfortunately the receiver/buyer doesn’t always have a say when it comes to the carrier. 

Good luck.

I've had a few packages not get delivered or maybe even stolen before, and some questionable packing by the sender resulting in damage on cheap stuff, but so far no important items - fingers crossed - knock on wood.
 
Aloha steve123,

Looking forward to you review, I have a couple of athlons too but I am on the fence in buying the ETR or the Delta Stryker HD. Both scopes have similar specifications but the Stryker is about $400 more. I don’t know anyone who has the Stryker and you can’t trust everything you see on YouTube about that scope. Anyway can’t wait until your review. 


Aloha, Keone

Thanks Keone.

The reviews on the Stryker seem very positive. These days there are so many great scopes in this price range. One could probably be reasonably content with any of them.

As the years went by I've gotten picky about the reticles I choose. High up on my list of dislikes is numbers that reside just off the vertical crosshair because I've found them getting in the way of wind hold offs when using holdovers. It's been a Murphy's law thing to me. Ooop, wouldn't you know it Steve, just where I need to aim and there's that number in the way again, this just bugs the !@#$ out of me....

A few things I'm interested to know about with the ETR, is, does it have daylight bright illume, and just how good is the glass in it - like compared to my S&B's and also to my Gen2 Ares BTR???


 
Waiting to get out to the range. Just put the Athlon Ares ETR on the FX.

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It's been a while, sorry about that, life gets in the way sometimes, as it has a habit of doing. The ETR got to my house in 5 days, ordered afternoon of the 19th of Feb and received on the 24th, that's in a timely time frame I'd say.

As always with Athlon scope boxes the ETR came in a nice colorful box, both ends of the scope, and the bottom turret, were supported with rigid foam so it'd be hard for the scope to be damaged in shipping, which is something I appreciate, as I'm sure everyone would. The scope looked brand new as it should. I had my doubts when I ordered but I liked the burnt color of the brown/bronze anodized finish, glad I got this color! My impression is this finish seems durable, unlike a $1800 IOR scope I used to own that was obviously painted on, which scratched off in their supplied IOR rings when I slid that scope forward to adjust eye relief. There was no drama mounting and leveling the ETR in the ARC 34mm rings. BTW these American Rifle Company/ARC rings are extremely well made and very differently engineered compared to all the other rings out there, being that the design employs basically a double, and opposing, strap wrench concept! My rings are a 1st gen set that are 10 years old but the newest gen are equally awesome. 

First impressions?? Well it's not a huge or long scope at 15.3" - check that off. Ever seen those old USO 5-25's, they are 20''s or so long. This ETR is not so heavy for this class of scope either, that's good, it's "36.5oz", - check that one off too. Speaking of weight have you ever picked up a Vortex Gen2 Razor 4.5-27x56?? man they are pigs, at 48.5 oz, crazy! I give the ETR a solid pass for both those aspects.

Of course I went straight to the 10 mil per rev elevation turret because that's what I use most. Okay this aspect of the ETR is astounding, no lie! Perfect IMO, it has SUPER distinct clicks, in fact the best I've felt on any riflescope!!! Keep in mind I own S&B's too!, The sound the clicks make are very very audible, also more than any scope I've ever heard before. The white lines indicating 10ths of mils all line up with the centerline on the housing, again perfectly. Those lines are easy to see and standout, unlike the lines on my S&B's which can be hard to see for my old eyes, part of that reason is the S&B double turn turret has 14 mils crammed into the turret so there isn't much room to space the "thin" lines. Of note on the ETR elevation turret, the action of the turret is on the harder tension side of scope turrets, this I like because there is less chance of them moving by accident somehow. Though it is easy to make one click at a time without running over to the next click. Lastly the zero stop is easy to set, and the top screws on both turrets come off with a coin so no tools needed. The elevation travel is 32 mils so plenty of travel. Even though the EVOL has a "50" moa base, yes it is actually 50, I was still able to get a 30 yard zero!!!

Next I went to the windage turret. Much the same but it takes less tension to move it. It has a large-ish R for right, and L for left, so you know which direction to go at a glance. Nice, it has a locking feature! Just pull out to turn the turret and push in to lock again, this also has a very distinct snap in and out feel. Check - very well done indeed! One time I put my S&B 5-25 into my drag bag and inbetween stages the windage turret accidentally turned, that cost me a lot of points! Ever since I've liked locking turrets. 

Side focus next, 25Y to infinity, a good action to them, nothing odd to report, check that off too. If you have low powered AG's that you'll shoot at 10Y this scope is not for you. However I found that this scope does focus to 15Y on 4.5x. Otherwise it's versatile for most any other application one could want to use a scope for.

ILLumination, to actuate this feature go to the very end of the side focus knob where it resides. It's got 6 different brightness settings with a 0 inbetween each setting so we don't have to go all the way back to a stop to shut off the illume, that's a convenient thing! THE other """BIGGEST THING""" to me is this scope does have "DAYLIGHT BRIGHT" illume!!!! I love this feature on low magnification, and on black steel plates, or black round paper bulls! A BIG CHECK OFF for this aspect! This is another reason I chose this scope over others.

GLASS, you've been waiting for this, right?! Well it's awesome, or I should say better than I expected it to be! Looking through my Athlon Ares BTR gen1, the ETR has much more/better image quality, it's pleasantly superior. Comparing to my S&B 5-25 it's close, almost there, just less, but plenty nice, and that's really nitpicking. The ETR pulls off 30x well, no darkening and the image is crisp and clear. On 4.5x the FOV is huge and sharp from edge to edge. No CA that I can see either. The general colors are true to life which makes the experience of gazing through the scope seem like it's an S&B. Check this area off with flying colors - pun intended.

Reticle, okay this is my only small complaint. The truth is I like "all .2 mil" tree reticles for exacting holdovers and holdoffs, it's my personal preference, you may not feel this way! I do like the line thickness, it's .03 mil for the main crosshair and is also for the center dot. See here for all reticle dimensions https://athlonoptics.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/ATHLON-Ares-ETR-APRS1-FFP-IR-MIL-Reticle-Manual.pdf Basically on low magnification I use the reticle as kind of a tree looking, upwards pointing arrow, duplex reticle because the center dot can't be seen, though with the illume on the reticle sticks out dramatically, especially useful on 4.5x to 8x No drama on mid power, I can see the reticle fine without illume. On high magnification the center dot and the rest of the reticle actually appears large. Remember that in a FFP scope "no matter how small or large the reticle appears" all those dimensions remain exactly the same on "any magnification". I do like center dots, so I can suffer the .5 mil hashes as my compromise for the benefit of having 30x which is half of why I wanted to get the ETR. I'll give this a check, only because I'm picky when it comes to reticles, and I know that 90% of shooters wouldn't care one way or another. Also in many ways this reticle blows most other reticle out of the water anyway. Like this aspect, see the reticle in the link above, there are no mil line numbers just off the vertical crosshair getting in the way of a wind holdoff, when holding over. I hate looking through a number, don't you??!!

Magnification ring action is good, maybe a little on the stiff side. Numbers are easy to see. Check.

Euro style diopter adjustment is good and with no slop. I like this type of diopter because my eyes fluctuate and I let friends and family look through my scopes, and first thing that has to happen is they need to set the reticle focus to their eyes. I like that I can set it back for me quickly! Check.

Conclusion; To start. I don't see how anyone could not love this scope if that person likes FFP scopes! Man it totally kicks butt on many scopes costing a significant amount more $. I could name brands but that'd be in poor taste. Let's just say I'm glad I sold some scopes costing more money because for various reasons certain aspects of the scope were to me a disappointing "FAIL" which I couldn't talk myself into putting up with. Let's just say I've felt crappy turrets, lines on turrets not line up, seen poor glass, seen poorly designed reticles, on and on and on, and I gotta say that this scope is such a well sorted out scope regardless of cost! How much do I like this scope? Well if it had an all .2 mil tree reticle and it focused down to 10Y, I'd sell all my S&B's!!! That's how much I like the ETR and that says a lot about it. Hint -hint!

Any questions you may have please feel free to ask.

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Wow that looks great!! I have a Midas Tac 6-24x50 coming Thursday that will be going on my .22 EVOL Tac which I should be getting very soon

Ah, another EVOL brother! My friend Bobby has a mid sized 22 cal EVOL TAC, what a nice rifle.

You are going to like it, you made the right decision. A TAC on a TAC, so fitting 
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Oh that's great to hear! That's the one I ordered also!

Also your opinions were what swayed me to the Midas Tac. I also thought the Midas Tac on the EVOL Tac just sounded right!
 
DB, did you get your TAC yet?

Just letting you guys know I decided to put my Ares BTR Gen2 4.5-27x50 on my EVOL instead because the ETR was so close to the barrel on the EVOL, with it's 50 moa base, so I couldn't put the sunshade on, necessitating the need to buy another set of 34mm rings, which I didn't want to do. I used extra high Nightforce rings which put's the BTR high enough that I'm not looking into/through the end of the moderator, as well.

Anyway the ETR is on my 6mmBR tactical rifle for now. Using it I made a first round hit at 675Y on a 10" plate and got the 12" plate on the 2nd try due to a missed wind call. The dope was absolutely perfectly centered at waterline middle! 

My shooting friends all looked at it. One friend said a long whoaoooo, another said "I can't find any fault with the scope. 


 
I did get the Tac lastnight and WOW! Such a nice scope. Love the reticle and everything just works so nice and smooth. The turrets feel so much better than expected. I'm a fan of fixed power SWFAs and thought those turrets were good but man these are incredible. I mean super crisp with no play or mushiness whatsoever. And the glass is awesome. And the side focus is like butter. Yeah I'm going to love this scope. 

I bought mine from Blueline optics which you could add on the correct Butler Creek caps and sunshade. It's a long sucker with the sunshade but love the look. My hope is with my EVOL is to use some 1" height Burris Signature XTR rings and take off 20moa with the inserts so there's a total of 30moa. Should hopefully fit the EVOL. Also gotta see if there tall enough though for the magazine.
 
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I did get the Tac lastnight and WOW! Such a nice scope. Love the reticle and everything just works so nice and smooth. The turrets feel so much better than expected. I'm a fan of fixed power SWFAs and thought those turrets were good but man these are incredible. I mean super crisp with no play or mushiness whatsoever. And the glass is awesome. And the side focus is like butter. Yeah I'm going to love this scope. 

I bought mine from Blueline optics which you could add on the correct Butler Creek caps and sunshade. It's a long sucker with the sunshade but love the look. My hope is with my EVOL is to use some 1" height Burris Signature XTR rings and take off 20moa with the inserts so there's a total of 30moa. Should hopefully fit the EVOL. Also gotta see if there tall enough though for the magazine.

Good plan with the XTR rings! Glad you like the scope too. I posted a reply yesterday but somehow it didn't go through???

Show us a pic of your TAC/TAC when you get a chance.