Ataman m2r v galahad

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I have handled both guns at shot show 
But could shoot them 
I liked the Galahad because the cocking lever can moved for a left handed shooter 
to me it felt more comfortable 
another person I was with really liked the Ataman so it breaks down to personal opinion. 
the Ataman probably has more power 
I don't think that you could go wrong with either one
they both seemed well made
sorry I can't give you more information 
Dave
 
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Thanks. I'm familiar with Jim Chapman's reviews.... I should've asked were there any issues inherent to each gun that one's hands on experience came across. I liked the N-tec 340 luxus pro so much that I bought it without there being hardly any reviews and got a grainy cocking gun with metal shavings in the stock when disassembled. I know there are eventual issues with any gun, but some I'd rather not deal with. From your input I feel like I'm leaning more towards lightness and power.
 
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I'm waiting for a replacement Ataman ultra compact to arrive so if you can wait a few days, I'll report on how the new one compares to the first one they sent. It will be a good indication of the general quality control. You can get a bad one with any air gun but if the replacement is also bad then I consider it to be a bad sign. 

If you are looking for the least risk, I think the Galahad might be the way to go. It's an S510 in a bullpup stock after all. That means it's not terribly exciting in terms of air rifle innovation but it is a safe option. The S510 is a proven platform. It has lots of loyal fans. A version updated with a regulator could be great. It's not lightweight though.

My bet would be (without having seen one) that you would not be disappointed with the wood on a Galahad. The wood on all of the Air Arms rifles I have seen has been of a reasonable quality and some were quite good.

The Ultra Compact is very light and easy to shoulder. It feels great (if you don't add a heavy scope). It's a little loud and the shot count out of the box is low. I would plan on sending it to a tuner and ordering an additional LDC if you choose the Ataman. Ernest was able to tune one to fix those issues fairly well. It has potential.

The wood on the Ataman I had was not good. I don't just mean that the machining was bad. The quality of the wood was low. It was very soft and easy to break, not rigid and the finish was rough. I should find out shortly if they are all like that but, I would suggest waiting for the synthetic stock version to be back in stock. I think the design of the stock is too thin for wood at the sides. 

If your goal is to buy a lightweight and compact air gun, I would recommend adding a Taipan Mutant Shorty to the short-list. It's shorter than either the Ataman or the Air Arms, quieter, higher shot count, less expensive and it's likely to be more consistent. Mags are cheaper too. 

Both the Shorty and the Ataman Ultra Compact have extremely smooth actions. The Ataman action is slightly nicer than the Mutants but it's close.

That's view right now. It could change when I see the replacement Ataman though. 


 
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"ddransoml"And I was rooting for the Ataman! Lot to think about, bro, thanks. I'll be on the lookout for your replacement review.
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Me too to be honest. I really wanted the Ataman to be good (and still do). I really like the look and feel of the Ultra Compact. I'll be a happy man if I get a working one. 

Atamans have the right raw materials (apart from the wood) but that isn't enough. A LW barrel needs to be machined well to be accurate and a reg needs to be tuned properly to be consistent.

I think the action and the overall design is good enough to be worth some effort on our part. There really are no other non-bullpups that are as light, compact and cool-looking. 

I just hope Ataman don't ruin a good thing. More competition is good for us customers. They just need to realize that their competitors are selling bullpups with forward cocking levers, higher shot count, lower noise and less weight for the same or less money. It doesn't take too many issues for people to dismiss a new brand when there are less risky options available. 

 
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"ddransoml"Thanks. Been waiting on his review since the teaser came out couple days ago. Actually, the Taipan is the ideal size. Do you know of any aftermarket stock makers for it.
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Check out the recent thread on Cricket mods. One of the members here posted pics of his custom stock with details of how to contact the maker. The guy that makes them also makes custom Mutant stocks and the ones in the photos look quite nice. He seems to make two different versions. One looks really stylish and curvy, the other is an abomination and even uglier than the original. I would choose the nice-looking one!
 
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