Just for reference I also own 3 .25 calibers, and 2 other .22's.
Are there any Ataman M2R Carbine Ultra Compact owners out there?
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Just for reference I also own 3 .25 calibers, and 2 other .22's.
I wrote this @PA. I recommend the all black synthetic. I have read that the walnut is not very impresssive.
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Things I liked: Very high quality fit, finish, materials. Soft touch synthetic appears and feels better than FX (I own 3). Although people are commenting on price of magazine, it is in fact the highest quality, precision fitting and functioning magazine in my collection of 11 PCPs. Would be nice if it was a tad cheaper though
. The way the mag inserts is precise in alignment, zero slop, precise index. Fairly quiet out of the box, about same as AA S510. LW barrel is very accurate, can achieve 1/2 inch groups on paper at 50yrds and consistently hit 1 1/4 inch steel spinner at 100 yrds. In 22 cal @ 26-27 FPE , somewhat susceptible to wind. Lightweight, compact, portable, fits in backpack when folded, perfect little small game hunter. Not very pellet fussy out to 90 yrds. JSB 16 and 18, H&N FTT, Crosman Premier Domes, Polymags, all shoot well. I'm currently sticking with the JSB16s @ 853 fps which are good out to 100yrds. No fuss, no muss, easy to shoot accurately within 20 mins out of box.
Things I would have changed: The safety is in an unusual location but functions well and easy to operate once you remember where it is. It would have been icing on the cake if it came OEM with a picatinny rail on forend for bipod etc. Easy enough to solve. At 26-27 FPE, I am getting 40 shots on the reg per 260 bar fill. Roughly 30bar per magazine x4. I have not filled up to 300 bar which some people will struggle with depending on equipment. The air cylinder is very small, using a hand pump and filling to 200bar should net you 20 shots and should be easy to achieve given the small reservoir. There needs to be more English language reviews and information on this gun on the Internet. Information is sparse and sometimes conflicting or inconsistent.
What others should know: This is perfect for my intended use of portable, light weight, compact, accurate and consistent small game hunter. The quality, fit and finish, functionality, consistency, efficiency, ergonomics, and very smooth operation rivals or exceeds any of the PCPs in my collection including AA, HW, FX, Daystate, Kalibrgun, AT Vulcan. I will definitely be purchasing additional Ataman products. This platform would very likely also be awesome in .177 but probably not so much in larger than .22 caliber given its small air reservoir. A .177 cal @ 20fpe in this platform would be a no brainier purchase for me. Match with a high quality scope with more than 4 mil dots or one with mildots calibrated at 20x like Hawke 6.5 -20x sidewinder to take best advantage of trajectory of this gun out to 100yrds.
This is probably the best review I've read on a vendor's web site!
wondering about a rail attachment, maybe underneath near the forward grip area...
The threads on the end of the shroud are M16. DonnyFL makes an adapter for these that end in 1/2 UNF.
Update - I have confirmed that the thread size and pattern on end of shroud is M16x1. Such that you need male thread on the adapter side to insert into and attach to shroud end. Still loving this gun. Performs flawlessly.
@Dennis - the pivot for the collapsible stock is very robust. No slop at all whether folded or unfolded. I don't foresee any problems with that with extended use.
Mike, what about the collapsible butt stock pivot; can you foresee any issues do to continual use? I'm $300 away from making this purchase and I have concerns about that pivot. Backyard
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Things I liked: Very high quality fit, finish, materials. Soft touch synthetic appears and feels better than FX (I own 3). Although people are commenting on price of magazine, it is in fact the highest quality, precision fitting and functioning magazine in my collection of 11 PCPs. Would be nice if it was a tad cheaper though
. The way the mag inserts is precise in alignment, zero slop, precise index. Fairly quiet out of the box, about same as AA S510. LW barrel is very accurate, can achieve 1/2 inch groups on paper at 50yrds and consistently hit 1 1/4 inch steel spinner at 100 yrds. In 22 cal @ 26-27 FPE , somewhat susceptible to wind. Lightweight, compact, portable, fits in backpack when folded, perfect little small game hunter. Not very pellet fussy out to 90 yrds. JSB 16 and 18, H&N FTT, Crosman Premier Domes, Polymags, all shoot well. I'm currently sticking with the JSB16s @ 853 fps which are good out to 100yrds. No fuss, no muss, easy to shoot accurately within 20 mins out of box.Things I would have changed: The safety is in an unusual location but functions well and easy to operate once you remember where it is. It would have been icing on the cake if it came OEM with a picatinny rail on forend for bipod etc. Easy enough to solve. At 26-27 FPE, I am getting 40 shots on the reg per 260 bar fill. Roughly 30bar per magazine x4. I have not filled up to 300 bar which some people will struggle with depending on equipment. The air cylinder is very small, using a hand pump and filling to 200bar should net you 20 shots and should be easy to achieve given the small reservoir. There needs to be more English language reviews and information on this gun on the Internet. Information is sparse and sometimes conflicting or inconsistent.
What others should know: This is perfect for my intended use of portable, light weight, compact, accurate and consistent small game hunter. The quality, fit and finish, functionality, consistency, efficiency, ergonomics, and very smooth operation rivals or exceeds any of the PCPs in my collection including AA, HW, FX, Daystate, Kalibrgun, AT Vulcan. I will definitely be purchasing additional Ataman products. This platform would very likely also be awesome in .177 but probably not so much in larger than .22 caliber given its small air reservoir. A .177 cal @ 20fpe in this platform would be a no brainier purchase for me. Match with a high quality scope with more than 4 mil dots or one with mildots calibrated at 20x like Hawke 6.5 -20x sidewinder to take best advantage of trajectory of this gun out to 100yrds.
This is probably the best review I've read on a vendor's web site!
wondering about a rail attachment, maybe underneath near the forward grip area...
The threads on the end of the shroud are M16. DonnyFL makes an adapter for these that end in 1/2 UNF.
Update - I have confirmed that the thread size and pattern on end of shroud is M16x1. Such that you need male thread on the adapter side to insert into and attach to shroud end. Still loving this gun. Performs flawlessly.
@Dennis - the pivot for the collapsible stock is very robust. No slop at all whether folded or unfolded. I don't foresee any problems with that with extended use.
Mike, what about the collapsible butt stock pivot; can you foresee any issues do to continual use? I'm $300 away from making this purchase and I have concerns about that pivot. Backyard
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Another small light short and accurate gun that shoots well left handed while having a right hand lever is the cricket mini Carbine in .22. Highly recommended. https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/new-arrival-kalibrgun-22-cricket-carbine-mini/#post-200194
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I was looking at the mini carbine too but it is quite a bit more expensive. Thanks for your quick responses. I am the Steve who commented on your PA review - 11-15-2018. I see that you have an LDC on it. Is it a Donny FL? I was going to wait and see if it needed one until after I shot it.
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Yes donny makes an adapter in m16 ending in 1/2 UNF for this gun. He makes fantastic LDCs. The Tatsu or Tanto both work great on the Ataman and the cricket mini. As for shooting the Ataman without an LDC - it would depend on how close your neighbors are. Mine are less that 20 yards to each side.
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I ordered the Ataman and it should be delivered on Tuesday. Also ordered the Donny Tanto. So I needed a scope so I ordered one of these: https://cameralandny.com/spec-sheet.html?catalog[name]=Athlon-Optics-Midas-BTR-2.5-15x50---APMR1-SFP-IR-MIL-213016&catalog[product_guids][0]=1622672
Posted on this forum. Should be a great combo. Thanks for the info.
Posted on this forum. Should be a great combo. Thanks for the info.
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Definitely want to here what you think of this gun when you get it...and that's a great deal on that scope! I paid that much for a used one....It is a great scope the only grip I have is that the turrets don't lock but have pretty positive clicks and resetable 0.
James from Michigan,
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