Are moderators legal for airguns?

What state says that? Alphabet org enforces the Federal FIREARMS laws. Airguns are not firearms - in most states and localities. On the federal level, airguns are NOT firearms.

I'm not sure there is a simple answer. It varies state by state. Some states don't allow them if you are hunting with an air rifle.

at least where I live is ok in airguns, firearms, different story, totally banned

A permit is required for a firearms suppressor.

https://silencerco.com/yes-silencers-are-legal/

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/suppressor-laws-by-state

I live overseas in the Netherlands, where moderators / silencers / suppressors are just part of your kit. I do plan to travel with my FX Crown to the USA when Covid 19 allows. However, I will not be taking the DonnyFL moderator with me as I am told by everyone, don’t try to take them through US Customs because it can get complicated if “searched” and as a result I have purchased its twin from Utah Airguns and the twin sits in my gun safe back home in Idaho waiting for the Crown. Idaho has no issues with moderators on air rifles and there is no state law against them on firearms as long as you have the federal seal of approval. So like has said above, check you LOCAL law, State level and City Level.

Airgun ldc are not silencer. They do not have a serial number. Whens the last time u saw a serial number on a airgun ldc? Lmao. A real silencer has a serial number and need a permit to even own one. I know some state try to list airgun as firearm. But by federal law, a airgun is not an firearm and the feds do not make the rules regarding airguns. So a ldc on a airgun is legal. Its when you try to modify it to fit a firearm that it becomes illegal. Try putting one on a firearm and see what happens lmao

Lucky oil filters don't have serial numbers. WHEW!!!

And how many of us have gotten a permit to own a Moderator? HAH!! Good luck with that one!!

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It takes a while for your background check to go through. Up to a year but if you're not a prohibited person you will get one. You just have to jump through all the Fed's hoops.

Here is an American Airgunner video on the topic.

https://youtu.be/lKWKWAgENAo

And when I mention my European counterparts the issues Americans have to go to get a moderator for their firearm they roll their eyes.

Oklahoma encourages silencers for hunting with powder burners. Its legal to hunt on state property with a silencer. Air guns no problem.

The reality is...on firearms, once you break they sound barrier, the crack is still there and thus the suppression of the noise reduction is minimized.

The thing is, a moderator doesn't make any gun silent. Only reason I want a moderator is so I can preserve what hearing I have left after working in noisy environments for50 some odd years.

 

I have a suppressor for (mainly) my ruger 10/22 shooting hi cap mags of sub-sonic ammo

Ordered it US$200 check to the Alphabet org and a visit with the sheriff's deputy to get finger printed and photgraphed. If youve got concelaed carry, you ve been thru the process.

then I waited about 12 weeks to pick it up.



ANd yes, Ive hung that thing off a few of my .22 AG's

Hi all, I just got it trouble for writing about another touchy subject (I'm new here) so let me explain to you all that I am asking these questions to stimulate opinions, not argument. I am wondering why and how (legal) the addition of a moderator is to an airgun (rifle, pistol). I know that the law for most states is that a Moderator must be a permanent fixture (not removable) on airguns only, to be legal. This does not explain the availability of these devices for sale. Please don't yell at me. this is not my opinion, but food for thought.. Thanks for your thoughtful comments....

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An airgun is not a firearm. It is not regulated by the BATFE. A moderator, placed on an airgun, which is not a firearm, does not require a tax stamp. A moderator, intended for airgun use, placed on a firearm is a federal crime.

Blackpower weapons can be obtained legally without requiring a FFL or NICS check.

This topic is absurd, if the purpose is "food for thought" I am not hungry. If it's purpose is opinion perhaps we can debate the minutia of knife and sword laws as it applies to criminal code state to state and identify why specifically, a tactical spork, which is neither a knife or spoon or fork, is legal.

As an American Citizen we are free, with the exception of law, to pursue happiness in life. My DonnyFL makes my Brocock Concept Lite quite happy

It's totally 2 different things airguns and powder burners. Let's just talk airguns you can buy a moderator made for airguns it's fine No worries it's legal but if you put a airgun moderator on a powder burner it is illegal. Can't do that. Now if you put a moderator made for a powder burner on a air rifle that also is illegal even though the airgun is legal the moderator is not. Unless you have a tax stamp for it. So just to be clear don't mix the two I Airguns and powder burners the incompatible moderator wise anyway. But airgun Moderators don't need tax stamps and are legal as long as they are used for the purpose of an air gun. 

"An airgun is not a firearm. It is not regulated by the BATFE. A moderator, placed on an airgun, which is not a firearm, does not require a tax stamp. A moderator, intended for airgun use, placed on a firearm is a federal crime.

Blackpower weapons can be obtained legally without requiring a FFL or NICS check.

This topic is absurd, if the purpose is "food for thought" I am not hungry. If it's purpose is opinion perhaps we can debate the minutia of knife and sword laws as it applies to criminal code state to state and identify why specifically, a tactical spork, which is neither a knife or spoon or fork, is legal.

As an American Citizen we are free, with the exception of law, to pursue happiness in life. My DonnyFL makes my Brocock Concept Lite quite happy "



LMNOP, well stated. I think that this topic is "click bait" from someone who may not necessarily have yours, mine, or anyone elses' personal freedom truly at heart. They do not appear to interested in anything more than poking away at freedoms and stirring the pot.a A simple google search or search of these forums will render the results that airguns are not firearms and not subject to the same regulation by the government (with court rulings to boot).

There is no security by obscurity...this sport should be guarded jealously by everyone who participates.

Vote early, vote often, otherwise these freedoms will disappear too.

Navy ... out.

In a firearm's sound is created by instantaneous burning to cause the rapid expansion of gasses and air to propel an object. To control the sound you must cool this gas, control it's expansion and absorb as much of the extraneous energy as possible. A silencer attempts to do this with volume, baffles, and energy absorbing packing. The moderator on an compressed air rifle deals with the compressed air which cools as it expands first in the barrel, next in the moderator. the baffles, and packing preform the same function as the firearm silencer. Next - there is no fire in an airgun. The Alphabet org seems to take the term fire-arm literally. We use air arms. Firearms operate in the realm of 40,000 to 60,000 psi air arms are 3,000 to 5,000 psi ( commercially) and there is an equal difference in foot pound energies between firearms and airarms. It could all change in the future. P.S. I have no desire to hold a filled 10,000+ psi air tank next to my head. For me air rifles are the step between my old daisy bb gun with bb's bouncing of many birds and squirrels and the .22 rim fire cartridge.