Notice pretty substantial "cuts" on Daystate. Wonder why? New models or mods on the horizon?
AOA Daystate "sales"
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In a couple of cases, I think it might be due to planned discontinued models. But I think overall it's just the result of competition. Daystate products have been generally overpriced, and my guess, that's now being felt. I currently have three rifles that shoot as well or better than their Daystate competition, yet cost significantly less; Taipan Veteran, Weihrauch HW100, and FX Royale 400. In addition to shooting as good or better, they are all much more user-friendly for adjustments and tuning, as compared to Daystate.
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I, for one, have been enjoying the discounting currently going on with many Daystate rifles. Perhaps a bit too much...
Even if the rifles I have recently purchased are discontinued in the future, they will never be obsolete. And they currently make me look like a better shooter than I am.
What might be the 'latest and greatest' next best thing from Daystate? Well the future might be technology like the upcoming Delta Wolf with its in-built chrony constantly talking to the electronic action. The Delta Wolf is not really the form factor I am looking for, but I understand that they need/want a gun to challenge the FX Impact. I would be more interested in that electronics package in a Wolverine type stock. But it is not something I need, nor something I would pay top dollar for when it newly comes out, especially since such fantastic Daystate rifles are currently available at big mark-downs.
Even if the rifles I have recently purchased are discontinued in the future, they will never be obsolete. And they currently make me look like a better shooter than I am.
What might be the 'latest and greatest' next best thing from Daystate? Well the future might be technology like the upcoming Delta Wolf with its in-built chrony constantly talking to the electronic action. The Delta Wolf is not really the form factor I am looking for, but I understand that they need/want a gun to challenge the FX Impact. I would be more interested in that electronics package in a Wolverine type stock. But it is not something I need, nor something I would pay top dollar for when it newly comes out, especially since such fantastic Daystate rifles are currently available at big mark-downs.
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I was told by AOA that the Pulsar/Renegade platform was being replaced by the Delta Wolf. I just ordered a Pulsar HP in .25 from them after researching premium bullpup rifles. I felt that it was a good fit for my needs at the current reduced price point. I would have went another route if the pricing was still at normal retail.
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With many items, parts are so hard to come by when a model is discontinued. If not immediately, then in fairly short order. Thoughts on whether that is likely with discontinued Daystate rifles?
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I, for one, have been enjoying the discounting currently going on with many Daystate rifles. Perhaps a bit too much...
Even if the rifles I have recently purchased are discontinued in the future, they will never be obsolete. And they currently make me look like a better shooter than I am.
What might be the 'latest and greatest' next best thing from Daystate? Well the future might be technology like the upcoming Delta Wolf with its in-built chrony constantly talking to the electronic action. The Delta Wolf is not really the form factor I am looking for, but I understand that they need/want a gun to challenge the FX Impact. I would be more interested in that electronics package in a Wolverine type stock. But it is not something I need, nor something I would pay top dollar for when it newly comes out, especially since such fantastic Daystate rifles are currently available at big mark-downs.
How would you rank that DayState Huntsman Revere with the others? I've been interested in purchasing a huntsman for a while now
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How would you rank the DayState Huntsman Revere compared to the others? I've been interested in purchasing a huntsman for a while now
I'm not sure to what "others" you refer, Daystate rifles? I had an earlier Huntsman, and I consider it very similar to my HW100. It is a proven platform, and if you don't need a ton of power or huge shot count, it's a great rifle.
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How would you rank that DayState Huntsman Revere with the others? I've been interested in purchasing a huntsman for a while now
The Huntsman, in comparison to my other Daystates, is a nice and accurate gun (now that I have dealt with the pellet clipping from the OEM moderator).
But with that said, I have to place it at the bottom of my list of Daystates.
Note that virtually all of the shooting I have done in the last couple of months since getting back into air rifles has been rested, off the bench (either bag front and back, or bipod in front and bag in back).
#1: Red Wolf - The gun is really easy to shoot well and is very accurate. I love the electronic trigger and the ultra-fast lock time of the electronic action. Masks my mistakes on follow-through. Love that the gun is backyard quiet without any additional moderator and the high shot count due to the big bottle. Love the light/non-existent 'force' required to 'cock' the gun (just re-setting the electronics, not compressing any spring).
#2: Tie - Wolverine R and Wolverine R HP. These guns really fit me very well and also shoot really well for me. Don't have the same quietness as the RW (even the standard power gun) so mandate a moderator in my back yard. HP is new as of last week, standard R was purchased used. Standard R has trigger set a little lighter and more to my liking, but they are adjustable. I've got big hands, so the big grip of the Wolverines feels great to me. Both are dead nuts accurate if I do my part (even just mostly). And, in my opinion, they are drop-dead gorgeous. HP has some awesome power, but even the standard R is no slouch.
#3: Pulsar HP - Bullpups are harder to shoot accurately (at least for me), even off the bench. Has the same benefits as the Red Wolf regarding electronic trigger and action. But no where near as forgiving as the Red Wolf, and not backyard quiet without an additional moderator. If you have to have a cocking lever right next to your ear, the Pulsar's with its incredibly light action is the one to have. I'm only now getting to grips with shooting this gun as I really have to play my part right to get accuracy/repeatability. And I'm really low on skills and experience at this point. But hopefully nothing a bunch of tins of pellets can't help!
#4: Huntsman. Like I say, a great and accurate gun. Would be higher on the list if I hadn't tried the other guns mentioned above!
Now that I've used a side cocking lever, I don't much care for bolts any more, even though the bolt on my Huntsman is a pretty nice one (yes, my Hunstman is a Regal, and the new Revere has the side cocking lever - a real upgrade in my opinion). Would have been nicer if the OEM moderator had been engineered bored out a bit more by the factory, and I wouldn't have had to deal with clipping -> accuracy issues. The gun is pretty darned quiet already, so even if they had fit a .30 cal moderator to my .177 gun it still would have been quiet enough (I'm using a .30 cal DonnyFL Tanto on it now). Trigger is not as nice as the other Daystates I own, but it likely could be made better - I just don't have the skills or experience yet to be messing with triggers so I am shooting everything as it comes out of the box. I would buy all of my Daystates again, probably other than the Huntsman. It is definitely not a bad gun at all, but I just don't like it as much as my others.
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How would you rank that DayState Huntsman Revere with the others? I've been interested in purchasing a huntsman for a while now
The Huntsman, in comparison to my other Daystates, is a nice and accurate gun (now that I have dealt with the pellet clipping from the OEM moderator).
But with that said, I have to place it at the bottom of my list of Daystates.
Note that virtually all of the shooting I have done in the last couple of months since getting back into air rifles has been rested, off the bench (either bag front and back, or bipod in front and bag in back).
#1: Red Wolf - The gun is really easy to shoot well and is very accurate. I love the electronic trigger and the ultra-fast lock time of the electronic action. Masks my mistakes on follow-through. Love that the gun is backyard quiet without any additional moderator and the high shot count due to the big bottle. Love the light/non-existent 'force' required to 'cock' the gun (just re-setting the electronics, not compressing any spring).
#2: Tie - Wolverine R and Wolverine R HP. These guns really fit me very well and also shoot really well for me. Don't have the same quietness as the RW (even the standard power gun) so mandate a moderator in my back yard. HP is new as of last week, standard R was purchased used. Standard R has trigger set a little lighter and more to my liking, but they are adjustable. I've got big hands, so the big grip of the Wolverines feels great to me. Both are dead nuts accurate if I do my part (even just mostly). And, in my opinion, they are drop-dead gorgeous. HP has some awesome power, but even the standard R is no slouch.
#3: Pulsar HP - Bullpups are harder to shoot accurately (at least for me), even off the bench. Has the same benefits as the Red Wolf regarding electronic trigger and action. But no where near as forgiving as the Red Wolf, and not backyard quiet without an additional moderator. If you have to have a cocking lever right next to your ear, the Pulsar's with its incredibly light action is the one to have. I'm only now getting to grips with shooting this gun as I really have to play my part right to get accuracy/repeatability. And I'm really low on skills and experience at this point. But hopefully nothing a bunch of tins of pellets can't help!
#4: Huntsman. Like I say, a great and accurate gun. Would be higher on the list if I hadn't tried the other guns mentioned above!
I would buy all of my Daystates again, probably other than the Huntsman. It is definitely not a bad gun at all, but I just don't like it as much as my others.
Thanks for the solid response. I'm definitely going to have to consider all the things you said about the DayStates
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They did the same thing a few weeks back. I noticed that the Daystate prices were good, I called about a Renegade.
I ended up with a short barreled Renegade, PLUS, somehow, a little more off of the advertised price.
While I didn't buy multiple guns like above, the single gun cost was very good to me.
Mike
I ended up with a short barreled Renegade, PLUS, somehow, a little more off of the advertised price.
While I didn't buy multiple guns like above, the single gun cost was very good to me.
Mike
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Not to push one brand over another, but I have had really good luck with all my Daystates. I currently have 2 Red Wolf Safaris, .25 and .30 cal. Just sold a unregulated Wolverine .303. Thing was a hammer, but I needed the money for the Safari. I do have an FX Boss that is really accurate out to much farther distances than an Airgun should shoot.
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How would you rank that DayState Huntsman Revere with the others? I've been interested in purchasing a huntsman for a while now
The Huntsman, in comparison to my other Daystates, is a nice and accurate gun (now that I have dealt with the pellet clipping from the OEM moderator).
But with that said, I have to place it at the bottom of my list of Daystates.
Note that virtually all of the shooting I have done in the last couple of months since getting back into air rifles has been rested, off the bench (either bag front and back, or bipod in front and bag in back).
#1: Red Wolf - The gun is really easy to shoot well and is very accurate. I love the electronic trigger and the ultra-fast lock time of the electronic action. Masks my mistakes on follow-through. Love that the gun is backyard quiet without any additional moderator and the high shot count due to the big bottle. Love the light/non-existent 'force' required to 'cock' the gun (just re-setting the electronics, not compressing any spring).
#2: Tie - Wolverine R and Wolverine R HP. These guns really fit me very well and also shoot really well for me. Don't have the same quietness as the RW (even the standard power gun) so mandate a moderator in my back yard. HP is new as of last week, standard R was purchased used. Standard R has trigger set a little lighter and more to my liking, but they are adjustable. I've got big hands, so the big grip of the Wolverines feels great to me. Both are dead nuts accurate if I do my part (even just mostly). And, in my opinion, they are drop-dead gorgeous. HP has some awesome power, but even the standard R is no slouch.
#3: Pulsar HP - Bullpups are harder to shoot accurately (at least for me), even off the bench. Has the same benefits as the Red Wolf regarding electronic trigger and action. But no where near as forgiving as the Red Wolf, and not backyard quiet without an additional moderator. If you have to have a cocking lever right next to your ear, the Pulsar's with its incredibly light action is the one to have. I'm only now getting to grips with shooting this gun as I really have to play my part right to get accuracy/repeatability. And I'm really low on skills and experience at this point. But hopefully nothing a bunch of tins of pellets can't help!
#4: Huntsman. Like I say, a great and accurate gun. Would be higher on the list if I hadn't tried the other guns mentioned above!
I would buy all of my Daystates again, probably other than the Huntsman. It is definitely not a bad gun at all, but I just don't like it as much as my others.
My experience has been similar but a bit different with the Pulsar. I have only 2 "bullpup" rifles-a Hatsan Gladius and a Daystate Pulsar. Even though the Gladius is quite heavy, I find both rifles to be very easy to shoot from a bench, and even more so offhand with the Pulsar where the rear weight bias makes it easier to point and shoot. The Gladius weight gets a bit obvious quickly when shooting offhand. The Gladius is extremely quiet but the stock Pulsar isn't "loud" by any means IMO and I have no problem shooting it anywhere and my nearest neighbors are within 100 yards. Different shooters and different situations?
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I just picked up the Revere in 25. It's a mighty fine shooter as well as light. Glad I waited for the lever action and bring your own moderator features. Gun is as smooth and accurate as anything out there. Worth the cash
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I am definitely coming to grips with my Pulsar HP. Shot it earlier this week and it reminded me of how much a laser beam .177 is (and what the Pulsar is truly capable of). I still really have to do my part with this rifle (more so in comparison to others), but I'm slowly learning what 'my part' is, and the muscle memory is slowly forming.
In comparison to a pretty similar bullpup (Renegade, standard power, in .22), in my hands I still find the Pulsar HP to be:
1) Less forgiving to my own errors and inconsistencies (Renegade will shoot tight groups for me more easily);
2) Heavier than the Renegade;
3) Louder than the Renegade (although both the Pulsar HP and the std. Renegade are louder than my std. Red Wolf, which is backyard-friendly in my backyard (I'm on a 1 acre lot and I may be overly sensitive about not wanting to bother my neighbors) without an additional moderator).
I bought the Renegade more for off-hand than bench shooting and to me it is a very comfortable rifle to shoot in that manner. Got it for an even better deal too as it was said to have a minor blem on the stock, which I can't really find.
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I don't think that is a fair/valid comparison. The Huntsman was a flagship model for Daystate back in the day, and was among the first commercially produced PCPs available to the masses. I think we all owe a debt of gratitude to the Huntsman. Also, I wouldn't even directly compare it to the Streamline, even though that may be more appropriate of a comparison for current production.
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