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Anyone shot a 22 Nova Freedom or Seneca Aspen? Feedback wanted please…

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    DesertSilver
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    I put 5-6 drops in the oil hole then pumped it, put 5-6 drops in the oil hole and pumped some more, repeated until the pump lever moved like it should and pumped like it should. It pumps up pressure way easier than my HP floor pump. The hole I'm talking about is where the pump I believe draws in the air which is only open when the pump handle is fully extended. 

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    sticman77
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    hi, sorry if i missed this somewhere else in this thread.  i was playing with my hammer spring and got mixed up, and have no idea on where factory setting will be.  will each spring be pretty different?  is there a rough guestimate some people could give me from either full turned in or out?

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    Butch
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    Mine and the others I have seen have been 3.5 – 4 turns out (CCW) from bottomed out from factory. CW to bottom out the HS. That will give you a starting point. 

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    sticman77
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    thanks for the quick reply! 

    i may have turned too hard or something, or i'm having other problems coincidentally.  it looks like my gun is now going from 0 – 3000 in 11 or so pumps, and has about 5 shots on low…   tuned almost all the way ccw.  the number of pumps to shots seems right.  does this sound like a broken gauge?

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    DesertSilver
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    Mine was set at 1.5 turns out from bottomed and I have it set at 1 turn out from bottomed now. Pump your rifle up to 3600 psi and see what it does. There's a floating piston in the air tube separating the air you pump into it and the pre charged side of the piston which should be set around 1800 psi. The piston was stuck on another guy's rifle and that broke it loose so he had the whole 50cc of air to shoot. Before that it was doing the same thing yours is. 

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    sticman77
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    that did the trick!  once it got up there, there was an audible "ping"ing noise that set it free.

    from my forum search last night it looks like people are going from 1.5 – 4 turns out.  now that i'm not panicking about the pump/reservoir, i now have a good base to start at to get back to the amount of shots from factory on low.

    thanks everybody for the help.  this thread is why i went ahead and bought the aspen.  the helpfullness on this message board to people dabbling into airguns from the firearms world is awesome.  i originally ordered a stormrider, but decided on this as a prepper gun instead seeing the help people got on this forum.

    i also filled the butt stock with insulation foam (weight about the same) and cut out slots for 3 magazines, and the allen wrench that adjusts the hammer spring.  and took the bolts out the butt, so that it now mounts with velcrow, for ultimate self containment :)

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    SilentSquirrel
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    You guys make me very impatient to get my Freedom back from ATI.

    This thread is incredibly helpful;& it's a pleasure to witness the involvement of everyone.

    Thanks to each & every one of you I now believe that the Freedom/Aspen platform can work

    Ed

     

     

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    SilentSquirrel
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    DesertSilver

    I put 5-6 drops in the oil hole then pumped it, put 5-6 drops in the oil hole and pumped some more, repeated until the pump lever moved like it should and pumped like it should. It pumps up pressure way easier than my HP floor pump. The hole I'm talking about is where the pump I believe draws in the air which is only open when the pump handle is fully extended. 

    Thanks, DesertSIlver

    That's exactly what I did on the original rifle & the first warranty replacement.

    Despite that both pumps locked up

    Wish me luck!

    The 2nd replacement (Freedom # 3) is due to arrive Thursday.

    The plan (similar to yours) is oil, pump 5 strokes, rest the seals a few minutes; and start all over again.

    The first pumping will be counting strokes to 1700; then on to 2000 and let it sit overnight.

    (I read somewhere in this thread that there is a certain # of strokes from 0 to 1700 that indicates the pre-charge is correct.

    I'll go back and check)

    Assuming no air leaks, repeat again the next day up to 3000.

    Any experience based input from others appreciated

     

    Ed

     

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    Android
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    10 strokes should put you at 1740 +- 145 psi. This is if you have pre-charge. Mine does not, and the 30 extra pumps I believe will balance out with more shots at the 2000 psi and below. Shooting the ultra-shocks (25.4 grains), the sweet spot is between 2000 and 1800 psi, or a little lower. I am going down the rabbit hole and seriously considering ordering some parts guns from ATI, another .22 and a .177. These rifles are just too much fun! Good luck with your replacement rifle. May the lube be with you.

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    SilentSquirrel
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    Android

    10 strokes should put you at 1740 +- 145 psi. This is if you have pre-charge. Mine does not, and the 30 extra pumps I believe will balance out with more shots at the 2000 psi and below. Shooting the ultra-shocks (25.4 grains), the sweet spot is between 2000 and 1800 psi, or a little lower. I am going down the rabbit hole and seriously considering ordering some parts guns from ATI, another .22 and a .177. These rifles are just too much fun! Good luck with your replacement rifle. May the lube be with you.

    Good to hear from you, Android

    Thanks for the reply.

    Is that typo?

    Sweet spot between 2000 & 1800?

    Did you mean 2800?

    Ed

     

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    Android
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    With the Nova Freedom the larger the projectile, less pressure = higher fps = higher fpe = less chance of me roaching my o-rings! Look at the pyramid air write up.With my rifle at 2000 – 1800, the target at 40/50 yards is destroyed. High power, by the way, 

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    SilentSquirrel
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    Android

    With the Nova Freedom the larger the projectile, less pressure = higher fps = higher fpe = less chance of me roaching my o-rings! Look at the pyramid air write up.With my rifle at 2000 – 1800, the target at 40/50 yards is destroyed. High power, by the way, 

    Good to know, Android

    How many shots on High are you getting between 2000 & 1800

    You are using yourself as the regulator; and at 1800 up pump back up to 2000, correct?

    How many strokes?

    Ed

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    Android
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    It usually works out to three shots, and then 10 pumps to get back up. Sometimes more, sometimes less. I can pump it up to 2200 and then dump a whole clip.

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    SilentSquirrel
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    Good morning to each of you

    Here's an update on Freedom # 3 ( new + 2 warranty replacements)

    Upon arrival I inspected the gun, tightened 1 loose screw, lubed  ( 6 drops) & began pumping

    The lube routine became 3 drops every 5 pumps,or whenever I stopped pumping; whichever came first

    The manometer indicated just above zero so I read it as 200psi

    – 8 pumps 200-1700

    – pressure held 2 hours

    – 36 pumps 1700-3000

    – pressure held overnight

    I have been shooting 2800 down to 2000 +/- and then pumping in back to 2800

    Working in  3 or 6 pump then lube routine; as 3 pumps gets 100psi usually

    The pumping has become smooth;except for an occasional clunk when bringing the handle home

    As of this morning with the rifle at 2800psi:  97 rounds and 265 pumps.

    The barrel has been cleaned (string method)

    The rifle is sighted in at 10, 20, & 30 yards (iron sights) & chrono testing has begun

    (More data needed before reporting)

    As my first PCP I must remark that sighting in is way easier, and fewer rounds,  than with a powerful nitro/springer.

    So,that's my log

    Feel free to comment upon it and ask questions,

    Here are remarks, observations & of my own

    – When pumping I hear an occasional soft gurgle (blup) sound; Oiling (1-3 drops) stops it

    – If the gun rests before pumping sometimes the first strokes are ineffective; again,oiling 1-3 drops fixes this

    Is this sign of a bad or leaking pump?

    That's it for now

    Ed

    PS

    This is a great gun!!!

     

     

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    SilentSquirrel
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    SilentSquirrel

    Android

    10 strokes should put you at 1740 +- 145 psi. This is if you have pre-charge. Mine does not, and the 30 extra pumps I believe will balance out with more shots at the 2000 psi and below. Shooting the ultra-shocks (25.4 grains), the sweet spot is between 2000 and 1800 psi, or a little lower. I am going down the rabbit hole and seriously considering ordering some parts guns from ATI, another .22 and a .177. These rifles are just too much fun! Good luck with your replacement rifle. May the lube be with you

    DesertSilverI put 5-6 drops in the oil hole then pumped it, put 5-6 drops in the oil hole and pumped some more, repeated until the pump lever moved like it should and pumped like it should.

    Butch

    Mine and the others I have seen have been 3.5 – 4 turns out (CCW) from bottomed out from factory. CW to bottom out the HS. That will give you a starting point. 

    Good morning to each of you

    Here's an update on Freedom # 3 ( new + 2 warranty replacements)

    Upon arrival I inspected the gun, tightened 1 loose screw, lubed  ( 6 drops) & began pumping

    The lube routine became 3 drops every 5 pumps,or whenever I stopped pumping; whichever came first

    The manometer indicated just above zero so I read it as 200psi

    – 8 pumps 200-1700

    – pressure held 2 hours

    – 36 pumps 1700-3000

    – pressure held overnight

    I have been shooting 2800 down to 2000 +/- and then pumping in back to 2800

    Working in  3 or 6 pump then lube routine; as 3 pumps gets 100psi usually

    The pumping has become smooth;except for an occasional clunk when bringing the handle home

    As of this morning with the rifle at 2800psi:  97 rounds and 265 pumps.

    The barrel has been cleaned (string method)

    The rifle is sighted in at 10, 20, & 30 yards (iron sights) & chrono testing has begun

    (More data needed before reporting)

    As my first PCP I must remark that sighting in is way easier, and fewer rounds,  than with a powerful nitro/springer.

    So,that's my log

    Feel free to comment upon it and ask questions,

    Here are remarks, observations & of my own

    – When pumping I hear an occasional soft gurgle (blup) sound; Oiling (1-3 drops) stops it

    – If the gun rests before pumping sometimes the first strokes are ineffective; again,oiling 1-3 drops fixes this

    Is this sign of a bad or leaking pump?

    That's it for now

    Ed

    PS

    This is a great gun!!!

     

     

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    DwayneC
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    I heard they are having g a lot of problems with pump on the Aspen if you shoot a lot. Has anyone else heard the same. I am also coming one in .22.

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    Android
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    You will probably have to replace the o-ring in the pump with two o-rings. I shoot daily, and I babied mine and it still roached. Great gun, I shoot a lot more since I bought this gun, and that speaks for itself! There are lots of threads on what to do and how to do it. Android

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    DesertSilver
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    DwayneC

    I heard they are having g a lot of problems with pump on the Aspen if you shoot a lot. Has anyone else heard the same. I am also coming one in .22.

    If you want to shoot aPcp whether it's a Aspen/Freedom or one you need to fill from a floor pump you will have Orings to replace.

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