Anybody ever seen a metal failure on mold handles like this?

Two sets of handles failed in 10 minutes.

Both bought this year, both put on new 2 cavity molds, one Accurate steel and the other Arsenal brass, each with less than 300 fills at most, using a rawhide mallet. Mold preheat 350, alloy temp 750.

During casting at fill 20, it broke dropping the mold half in the spruce tray, took off the handle from the Accurate mood, put it on the Arsenal mold, it broke 5 fills later, exact same place.

Both-handles bought off Ebay, new 9 months apart. 



First time I have seen this in 45 years of casting.



I called and sent picture to Lee, Sent them pictures.

Roachcreek


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I can try.

Roachcreek



Not sure if I have the correct halves right but it is a closer picture, Hope this helps.

I usually roll pin the wood handle Ferrell to the metal handles, but had not done it yet to these two sets. I always wondered if that would cause failure, but I have two sets I roll pinned a few years back, Knifemaker is using a set I did 7 or 8 years ago and they never failed.

I think smart money is on a improper heat treated batch. I ordered three more sets, the definition of insanity perhaps.

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I purchased both new off Ebay, 1-19 and 9-19, conceivable they could be from the same batch.

They have opened a claim, but I was more interested in letting them know. If I have to get a cab, go to the USPS, p ay shipping, I might as well combine the two halves as one.

I ordered a boxed set of three off ebay about two hours after this happened. I have used Lee mold handles for years, always thought they were bullet proof, lighter construction than Lyman, but they never failed. I have used their Pak press and bulket sizing dies , but lately I use the NOE system as it has more choices and seem to be more consistent. Also I shoot 25 caliber airguns and NOE is the path to correct airgun bore sizing. Never cared for Lee molds, but I size for my Bulldog with Lee sizing dies. 

Roachcreek
 
I established contact with the Lee tech today.

I learned that this was most likely caused by holding the mold handles to tight. When casting with a new mold I baby it by using a raw hide mallet to cut the spruce, then open the mold and lightly tap the center pin while opening the mold with finger pressure, this particular mold ejects the bullets easily, I then close the mold, position the spruce plate by using the mallet to gently move it into position, then tightly hold the handles shut and give another light tap to ensure it is closed while gripping the handles.

These handles are made of sintered metal, the pressure and light tap is what broke these handles as I performed the closing operation.

I had told the folks at Lee that I was not after warrantee replacement, as I had ordered a 3 pack an hour after it broke, I just was wanting to know why and how they broke.

The tech said that the two handles are reverse images of each other and the two intact halves can be reversed to make one set.

Live and learn, personally if I have another breakage, it will be replaced with a propriety set of handles made by the molds maker.



Roachcreek
 
Your problem is MIM!

Metal Injection Molding.

They inject a powdered metal with some binder into a mould that is slightly larger (to allow for shrinkage), and then bake it.

Whicked fast and cheap but very true to final measurements, but as S&W has learned while using it for most internal parts, it breaks!!!

The same for mould handles, it breaks! For shape and size i will guess Lee no?

They have joined the "boat" and will spew out sub par parts that look like a million $$ but is in fact crap.

Add a few $$ and get a RCBS handle, still stamp forged and will last a lifetime and a half!